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Old 02-14-2018, 09:27 PM
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Nope, which do you recommend?
I use a Geneva bulk tape eraser. Check eBay. No shortage of erasers there, although the handheld type (i.e. Realistic) tend to overheat somewhat easily.

What tape deck do you have?

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Richard, if it's a new 'virgin' tape, do a fast-wind pass of the tape.

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Richard, if it's a new 'virgin' tape, do a fast-wind pass of the tape.



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Richard, if it's a new 'virgin' tape, do a fast-wind pass of the tape.

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Agreed. And store the tape "tails out" to avoid print-through.
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Sorry I don’t know what tails out means. IMG_2010.jpgIMG_2012.jpg

Also pictures on new tape deck

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Sorry I don’t know what tails out means. Thanks R
Richard --

You store a tape "Tails Out" like this:

1) Put the tape on the player, and let it play, all the way through, at normal playback speed. When its finished, take the reel off and store it.

2) "Tails Out" means that the tape has been played and it must be rewound in order to play again.

3) By playing the tape at normal speed and then storing it, you are assured that the tape is wound evenly on the reel hub and the tape edges will not curl.

Don't rewind or Fast Forward a tape at high speed and then store it...this makes the tape wind unevenly on the hub and causes the edges to curl and stretch, and that causes problems.

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You store a tape "Tails Out" like this:



1) Put the tape on the player, and let it play, all the way through, at normal playback speed. When its finished, take the reel off and store it.



2) "Tails Out" means that the tape has been played and it must be rewound in order to play again.



3) By playing the tape at normal speed and then storing it, you are assured that the tape is wound evenly on the reel hub and the tape edges will not curl.



Don't rewind or Fast Forward a tape at high speed and then store it...this makes the tape wind unevenly on the hub and causes the edges to curl and stretch, and that causes problems.



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Bob


Ok, thanks. I’ve got a lot to learn about R2R

That’s what makes it fun

Never too old to learn simple things

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Bob... +1 on the “Tails Out”
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Storing the tape tails out main purpose is so print through creates a post echo, not a pre echo.

But yes, playing the tape for a good tape pack/wrap is essential to the safety of the tape itself, minimizes edge damage.

Keep the machine heads and tape path clean and do it every time before and after playing a reel of tape.

Look for oxide shed and keep that stuff blown off the tape path.

Learn how to handle your tape transport. Use FF and RW to slow the movement down before engaging the brakes. If you go from full speed to abrupt stop you can break the tape and even the brake bands in the transport.

I was a full time professional recording engineer from 1976-2010. My first year on the job I learned how to calibrate and maintain R2R machines, we had a dozen Studer B-62 1/4" half track machines. It took me a week to go through them all doing a full mechanical and electrical alignment on each one. Because I had the knowledge, skills and all the tools (playback test tapes in all speeds, sine wave oscillator, dB voltmeter, oscilloscope, fish scales for pinch roller pressure and a Tentleometer for take up and hold back tape tension), I became the go to guy for all the recording studios in town. I worked on Studer and MCI 2" 24 track machines. A full alignment on those beasts took a whole day.

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Storing the tape tails out main purpose is so print through creates a post echo, not a pre echo.

But yes, playing the tape for a good tape pack/wrap is essential to the safety of the tape itself, minimizes edge damage.

Keep the machine heads and tape path clean and do it every time before and after playing a reel of tape.

Look for oxide shed and keep that stuff blown off the tape path.

Learn how to handle your tape transport. Use FF and RW to slow the movement down before engaging the brakes. If you go from full speed to abrupt stop you can break the tape and even the brake bands in the transport.

I was a full time professional recording engineer from 1976-2010. My first year on the job I learned how to calibrate and maintain R2R machines, we had a dozen Studer B-62 1/4" half track machines. It took me a week to go through them all doing a full mechanical and electrical alignment on each one. Because I had the knowledge, skills and all the tools (playback test tapes in all speeds, sine wave oscillator, dB voltmeter, oscilloscope, fish scales for pinch roller pressure and a Tentleometer for take up and hold back tape tension), I became the go to guy for all the recording studios in town. I worked on Studer and MCI 2" 24 track machines. A full alignment on those beasts took a whole day.
You’re welcome to come to my humble abode to calibrate my BR-20 any day of the week. The case of beer is on me.
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