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My C2700 came yesterday..Do I need a standalone streamer....Also new CDP question
Hey,
After much agonizing of the 2700 abd 2600 with an outboard DAC, I ended up with the 2700. It's flipping wonderful so far. Which leads to these next two questions. I am new to streaming, so my Macbook Pro runs right into the 2700 to play my ripped files and using services like Tidal. My first question.....do (or should) I look at getting the money tig an external streamer like Bluesoud Node or just go with what I have./ There were a few Tidal Masters tracks that sounded "meh"....so I also hooked the 2700 to my laptop via a Meridian Explorer 2. Macbook -> Meridian ->2700 analog inputs from a special cable blde I had made years ago by Signal Sound. It's a stereo jack on the Meridia edn and XLR on 2700 en 2. I currently have a MCD301 and Oppo 203 that I use for CD, SACD, etc. The Oppo is going nowhere due to PQ but I was wondering if the MCD301 is gettig long in the tooth. What would I have to spend to get a significant ficnt improvement over the 301 and what models are they? |
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I noticed an improvement in sound quality when I switched from a MacMini to Innuos product external streamer. I would recommend working with your dealer and trying one out at home.
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Ever43, glad you are enjoying the C2700. I too believe it's a wonderful pre. Like you I'm using my Oppo 205 when I want to spin cds but mostly streaming using Roon/Tidal. I do it two ways. When my wife and I just want background (whole house) music the Vault 2i is used along with other Bluesound products. When I want better SQ through my 2 channel I stream using my Sonore opticalRendu. What stands out the most is the drop in the noise floor allowing all the detail to be heard. There are many here more knowledgeable than me but I've learned computers are noisy devices, isolating the noise from your music is crucial.
Also, if I understand your current setup correctly you are not using the DA2's DAC which I believe has to be better than the computer's built in dac. I could be wrong.
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I think you'll find the Bluesound Node is not in the same league as your C2700. You'll be well served if you go upmarket.
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Obviously this won't help with SACDs, but I would just use a digital out from the MCD301 into your DAC (be it the 2700's or external). IMO there wouldn't be much sense in buying something else that'll just spin a disc and output the contents via digital.
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Ever43, huge congrats on your amazing 2700!
Best Charles |
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Hello Ever43 -
A simple and inexpensive way to turn the 2700 into a full streamer is to put a 'network bridge' in front. (I use the SotM). An important point is that these devices interface to whatever playback/streaming software you use, Roon, JRiver, iTunes, Spotify, Tidal, etc. One advantage is that is it easier to switch software packages rather than be tied to specific manufacturer's software. Many options.
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I like this discussion because I am confused on some of this stuff. I don't think I comprehend what Room does vs what tidal does. I assume tidal is like Spotify? And is roon more for an existing library that you already own? I'm in the same boat here where I would like to stream better than my current setup of a modded Sonos bridge that I use the Sonos app to stream through my c2500.
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Congrats on the C2700! Now how about a vinyl rig to go with that bad boy.
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I think the first question is: do you have (or want to create) a digital music library? Or prefer playing from physical media (i.e. spinning disks)?
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