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"Thinness" is not factor of digital nor SS components. As already stated, it's a matter of the entire system. Tone controls should not be necessary, nor are, IMO, desirable; at best, a fix for a problem that should be addressed elsewhere. My system is rich in tone, top to bottom, with either of my two digital sources, in-spite of the Ayre KXR and MXR's. In fact, I believe they contribute greatly.
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Alberto, Thanks for your reply and explanation of your device--sounds like an interesting approach to attempt to eliminate what I call "digital thinness" of tone from digital sources. By "digital thinness" I mean that when I hear live acoustic music in a good concert hall the sound is harmonically richer in timbre or "fatter" in tone than I often hear from digital sources. In the days when records were the main source of home playback the issue of thinness of tone from sources was largely a non-issue because of the "fat" pleasant sounding tone produced by 2" tape recording and by the record/phonograph cartridge front end on playback systems. But of course digital recordings have improved a lot, and with the better and more recent digital recordings "digital thinness" of tone has become less of an issue. Last edited by Steady339; 06-19-2014 at 09:59 PM. |
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From the dawn of days when CD first appeared audiophiles have often complained that digital has tended to sound "too clean", lacking in tone and less involving than records. I can remember building both transistor and tube audio circuits in college and easily noticing how much better the tube circuits sounded. Of course both digital recordings and SS have improved a lot since my college days. But in my experience I still prefer tube playback equipment with digital sources--tubes can simply be more involving to listen to! |
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Any other opinions here? Do most AA members think tubes and analogue are a necessity to avoid "thinness"?
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OR at low volumes where the ear's response curve becomes less sensitive to bass. Alberto's Delicious Decibels can be a big help when you can't crank it up. Last edited by GaryProtein; 06-19-2014 at 10:41 PM. |
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Perhaps "thinness" was a problem directly related to digital at one time, but frankly I always found the bigger problem with digital in the early days was harshness and grain. However today with some of the great digital source components and well recorded and engineered digital music available, there is no reason to have "thin" sound from a digital source. With a well-matched system (source, cables, amplification and speakers) you can have great sound from both digital and analog. While my system is not at the upper end, I have no problem with thinness, and I have heard digital systems that were absolutely stunning - and definitely not thin.
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Dunno but I avoid both tubes and analog sources and I have no issues with "thinness" in my system.
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No tubes or analog in my system, also no "digital thiness"
My experience is that in harsh sounding systems something is wrong with either system matching or power supply. Olaf
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