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Any Rega users have any experience with Koetsu Rosewood, Signature or Platinum esp., on an upper tier Rega table/tonearm? I’m exploring options for new table and cartridge and one consideration is a Rega Planar 10 with either an Aphelion or a Rosewood Signature Platinum. From what I can determine, the Rosewood would be a good VTA fit with height (-14mm) comparable to a Rega cart, can anyone confirm this? I don’t want to have to use shims.
Also I’m a little concerned about cart/arm resonance, the Rega tonearm is quite light at 11 grams and the Rosewood is low compliance, which would push the resonance frequency to about 16hz. Anyone have experience with this?
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Tony "Have you seen the stars tonight?" ________________________________ Main system: Linn Klimax KDSM/2 w/Organik; D’Agostino Momentum S250 & HD pre; Rega P10 w/Koetsu Rosewood Platinum Signature; Boulder 1108; Sonus faber Il Cremonese; Shunyata Everest, Alpha v2 & Sigma PC, Alpha v2 IC & SC; UpTone EtherRegen; Quadraspire Sunoko-Vent T, ISOAcoustics Orea & HRS Damping 2nd system: PrimaLuna EVO 300, Sonus faber Minima Amator II, REL T-5, refurbished AR XA w/Nagaoka MP-200 & VPI cabling, Naim NDX 2, Shunyata PS8 w/Defender & Viper, Nordost Blue Heaven PC & IC, Shunyata Venom sc, Symposium Svelte Shelves Workshop: Vintage Yamaha CA-1010 & CT-1010, PSB Imagine Mini, Auralic Aries Mini, Schiit BiFrost, AZ & WW cables Digital Streaming source: SonicTransporter i7 w/Roon, Synology DS420+, English Electric 8switch Personal audio: Woo WA22, WA7 & WA8; Linn Klimax DSM Renew, Sonore MicroRendu & UltraRendu; Shure SE535, Shure SH1540, Westone ES50 Custom, Sennheiser HD820, MrSpeakers Aeon Flow C, Noble Audio Zephyr Prestige, Dan Clark Stealth; Various Moon Audio dragons Video: Sony XBR65X850C; Apple TV-4; Vienna Schönberg L/R, Webern center & surrounds; REL T1, T2, & T3; Arcam AVR850; Cambridge Audio 752BD; MIT-EXP SC |
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Tony,
There will be a bit of uncertainty going this route. It’s not that far off. If you try it and then bass is too thin, you can add mass to the arm. There are some mass plates available for Rega arms. Basically you add mass to the arm with the plate and a longer set of cartridge screws.
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Main System: Amati Futura Mains Amati Homage VOX Center, Proac Response 1sc Rears, Three MC2301's for L,C,R MC 602 for the rears C 1100, MX 151, MCD 1100, MR 80 Nottingham Dais with Wave Mechanic Sumiko Palo Santos Presentation SurfacePro 3, RPi 4, ROON, WW Starlight Platinum USB, Schiit Yggdrasil, Benchmark DAC3 HGC MX 151, OppO BDP-95, JVC RS-500 DILA projector, 106" diagonal Stewart Luxus Screenwall Deluxe with Studiotek 130 G3 material. Lake House: Ohm F, MC 275V, C2300, MR 77, Rega P3 OnDeck: McIntosh MAC 4300v |
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I was a non-believer on VPI arms being OK for Koetsu, but I lent an RSP to a friend with a 3D arm (similar mass to the Rega?) and I'm honestly surprised at how wonderful it sounds. I have the Fidelity Research arms, great for Koetsu, in my own system - and the RSP sounded exactly like a Koetsu should even on that 3D arm. The Rega should provide further benefit from its rigid bearings.
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Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback.
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Tony "Have you seen the stars tonight?" ________________________________ Main system: Linn Klimax KDSM/2 w/Organik; D’Agostino Momentum S250 & HD pre; Rega P10 w/Koetsu Rosewood Platinum Signature; Boulder 1108; Sonus faber Il Cremonese; Shunyata Everest, Alpha v2 & Sigma PC, Alpha v2 IC & SC; UpTone EtherRegen; Quadraspire Sunoko-Vent T, ISOAcoustics Orea & HRS Damping 2nd system: PrimaLuna EVO 300, Sonus faber Minima Amator II, REL T-5, refurbished AR XA w/Nagaoka MP-200 & VPI cabling, Naim NDX 2, Shunyata PS8 w/Defender & Viper, Nordost Blue Heaven PC & IC, Shunyata Venom sc, Symposium Svelte Shelves Workshop: Vintage Yamaha CA-1010 & CT-1010, PSB Imagine Mini, Auralic Aries Mini, Schiit BiFrost, AZ & WW cables Digital Streaming source: SonicTransporter i7 w/Roon, Synology DS420+, English Electric 8switch Personal audio: Woo WA22, WA7 & WA8; Linn Klimax DSM Renew, Sonore MicroRendu & UltraRendu; Shure SE535, Shure SH1540, Westone ES50 Custom, Sennheiser HD820, MrSpeakers Aeon Flow C, Noble Audio Zephyr Prestige, Dan Clark Stealth; Various Moon Audio dragons Video: Sony XBR65X850C; Apple TV-4; Vienna Schönberg L/R, Webern center & surrounds; REL T1, T2, & T3; Arcam AVR850; Cambridge Audio 752BD; MIT-EXP SC |
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Hey Tony,
I use a Koetsu Urushi Vermilion in my SME V and it sounds absolutely wonderful, really, really lovely. The effective mass of an SME V is 10-11 grams, so given that, I'd think it'd work in your Rega RP10 just fine.
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Lumin P1 streamer/DAC/preamp, Constellation Inspiration integrated TT: Michell Gyro SE MkII, SME V, Koetsu Urushi Vermilion, EAR324. Harbeth 30.2s, REL R-305, Shunyata Alpha V2 ICs, Alpha V2 SPs, Sigma XC, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR-s & Alpha NRv2 PCs, Everest 8000 PD. Server Room: Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark Master Clock & LPS, Mac Mini Roon Core, Shunyata PS10 PD |
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I've heard a few various Koetsu carts on Graham and SME arms over the years and they sounded sublime.
Rega may work but I think their philosophies may not match... ![]() |
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I’m curious Serge, what would their philosophies have to do with whether they’d be a good match for resonance, weight, tracking, etc.?
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Tony "Have you seen the stars tonight?" ________________________________ Main system: Linn Klimax KDSM/2 w/Organik; D’Agostino Momentum S250 & HD pre; Rega P10 w/Koetsu Rosewood Platinum Signature; Boulder 1108; Sonus faber Il Cremonese; Shunyata Everest, Alpha v2 & Sigma PC, Alpha v2 IC & SC; UpTone EtherRegen; Quadraspire Sunoko-Vent T, ISOAcoustics Orea & HRS Damping 2nd system: PrimaLuna EVO 300, Sonus faber Minima Amator II, REL T-5, refurbished AR XA w/Nagaoka MP-200 & VPI cabling, Naim NDX 2, Shunyata PS8 w/Defender & Viper, Nordost Blue Heaven PC & IC, Shunyata Venom sc, Symposium Svelte Shelves Workshop: Vintage Yamaha CA-1010 & CT-1010, PSB Imagine Mini, Auralic Aries Mini, Schiit BiFrost, AZ & WW cables Digital Streaming source: SonicTransporter i7 w/Roon, Synology DS420+, English Electric 8switch Personal audio: Woo WA22, WA7 & WA8; Linn Klimax DSM Renew, Sonore MicroRendu & UltraRendu; Shure SE535, Shure SH1540, Westone ES50 Custom, Sennheiser HD820, MrSpeakers Aeon Flow C, Noble Audio Zephyr Prestige, Dan Clark Stealth; Various Moon Audio dragons Video: Sony XBR65X850C; Apple TV-4; Vienna Schönberg L/R, Webern center & surrounds; REL T1, T2, & T3; Arcam AVR850; Cambridge Audio 752BD; MIT-EXP SC |
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Koetsu is about the euphony and technicolor that makes everything sound warmer and more romantic. I am not saying you will not find joy with Rega and Koetsu, it may happen but their philosophies are different FWIW. ![]() |
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Rega is the Leo Tolstoy... War and Peace, Anna Karenina... sober and realistic, with a good tragedy never going to waste...
![]() Koetsu is the Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream... A story with Fairies and a very happy ending... ![]() |
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OK, creative metaphors, but what does that mean in terms of sound and design philosophy?
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Tony "Have you seen the stars tonight?" ________________________________ Main system: Linn Klimax KDSM/2 w/Organik; D’Agostino Momentum S250 & HD pre; Rega P10 w/Koetsu Rosewood Platinum Signature; Boulder 1108; Sonus faber Il Cremonese; Shunyata Everest, Alpha v2 & Sigma PC, Alpha v2 IC & SC; UpTone EtherRegen; Quadraspire Sunoko-Vent T, ISOAcoustics Orea & HRS Damping 2nd system: PrimaLuna EVO 300, Sonus faber Minima Amator II, REL T-5, refurbished AR XA w/Nagaoka MP-200 & VPI cabling, Naim NDX 2, Shunyata PS8 w/Defender & Viper, Nordost Blue Heaven PC & IC, Shunyata Venom sc, Symposium Svelte Shelves Workshop: Vintage Yamaha CA-1010 & CT-1010, PSB Imagine Mini, Auralic Aries Mini, Schiit BiFrost, AZ & WW cables Digital Streaming source: SonicTransporter i7 w/Roon, Synology DS420+, English Electric 8switch Personal audio: Woo WA22, WA7 & WA8; Linn Klimax DSM Renew, Sonore MicroRendu & UltraRendu; Shure SE535, Shure SH1540, Westone ES50 Custom, Sennheiser HD820, MrSpeakers Aeon Flow C, Noble Audio Zephyr Prestige, Dan Clark Stealth; Various Moon Audio dragons Video: Sony XBR65X850C; Apple TV-4; Vienna Schönberg L/R, Webern center & surrounds; REL T1, T2, & T3; Arcam AVR850; Cambridge Audio 752BD; MIT-EXP SC |
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