Hello PMC fans

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by JSCC

Jim,

Ron C or Ron Ong? If its Ron Ong, his MBL Ref combo is now out of my list as I am already into Acapella's which are magically musical.

The speakers I am looking for are to match the MCD301 & MA6600+TM2 combo. Not a elaborate system - that I have already and am very happy and satisfied.

I may be calling you one day - PM me the best time - to chat.

Cheers!

Jerry
I was suggesting Ron Ong. The 121's in Rosewood would match up nice with the 6600 and would not take up much space.

PM to follow
Jim

[JSCC]

Originally Posted by Stillone

Jerry
I was suggesting Ron Ong. The 121's in Rosewood would match up nice with the 6600 and would not take up much space.

PM to follow
Jim

MBL 121's. Thats a cool S$25k. Off budget my friend. Read your PM. Will be calling soon, most probably next weekend. Cheers!

[JSCC]

Originally Posted by JSCC

Hi Ian,

Apparently, the EB1i and the MB2i share almost the same frequencies range. In the brochure, seem like the MB2i is stand mounted. Please advise:

1. Does the stand comes with the MB2i (as a package)?
2. is the price difference between the 2 has a huge gap? From reading, seem like the MB2i has a better midrange component. True?
3. If a 200 watt Integrated Amplifier would these speakers amply?

Thanks.

2nd request! Help needed here Ian ...... Thanks.

[jetblack]

Welcome to the forum, Ian! I glanced at the PMC website, and noticed soft dome tweets & mids, which has my interest, as the RtR's have been there for me over the decades. I recently started looking for used speakers to go into the 2nd system. But then I got to thinking, if I were to find speakers with greater power handling, and bi-amp capability, and sound as good (or better) as the RtR's, then the RtR's could go to the 2nd system. I'm looking forward to some guidance from you in the future.

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by JSCC

MBL 121's. Thats a cool S$25k. Off budget my friend. Read your PM. Will be calling soon, most probably next weekend. Cheers!

Jerry

Pick up a used pair. You can get them for under $8k here.
Jim

[ian@pmc]

Originally Posted by JSCC

Hi Ian,

Apparently, the EB1i and the MB2i share almost the same frequencies range. In the brochure, seem like the MB2i is stand mounted. Please advise:

1. Does the stand comes with the MB2i (as a package)?
2. is the price difference between the 2 has a huge gap? From reading, seem like the MB2i has a better midrange component. True?
3. If a 200 watt Integrated Amplifier would these speakers amply?

Thanks.

Hey There, sorry for the delay in response, I just moved and I don't have internet at the new house.

The MB2 and the EB1i are almost identical when it comes to the numbers. The MB2 is a stand mounted loudspeaker. Both have about 10 feet of transmission line loading. This allows for deep bass extension at extremely low distortion levels... Getting flat bass response around the 20-30hz range with barely a trace of distortion is something only a transmission line can yield. The faux bass bump at between 50-80hz is something that shouldn't be tolerated. The mid range used in the EB1i is still domed however the power handling and dynamic capability is remarkably exceeded by the MF driver found in the MB2S and the MB2i.

The price for the MB2S which is $18,499 does not include stands, nor does the MB2i which is at $20,999. The EB1i is at $15,229... Between the two, the price gap is matched by the jump in performance. The 12" radial driver is more precise even at low level playback, the soundstaging ability of the MB2 is improved over that of the EB1i. If you are looking at between $15-22k, I would recommend taking a look at the IB2i. The bass response is down to 25hz flat, drop off somewhere around 15-17hz. It has the MF of the MB2 and the Nomex Piston driver of the EB1i at around $18K. Personally that is my favorite (almost at the level of the MB2 in a more compact cabinet), and pretty much everyone else at the company would say it is theirs as well.

For the EB1i, IB2i, and MB2i 200 watts at 4 ohms would work, although truth be told, these things love power - they will be your amps dictator. Throw as much as you possibly can at it and they will sing the glory. Seriously, we will clip a Bryston 28B without even a whimper coming from our loudspeakers. Anything less than two hundred watts you may want to work with a TB2i or FB1i or OB1i. Even the PB1i has blown through the Mc 1.2kw's.

Hope this helps, keep your questions coming!

Ian

[klipschfan]

What is the difference in max db's between EB/IB/MB......?

[ian@pmc]

EB1i is at 118db, moderately unhealthy.
IB2i is at 116db, slightly to moderately unhealthy
MB2i & BB5i are at 124db, severely unhealthy

These levels aren't the intended playback levels, these are to be factored in the power handling and dynamic capabilities.