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Old 10-09-2020, 11:30 AM
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Hi there, I have been a long time follower of this forum, and have learned a lot over the years. I recently had the upgrade bug and did a fairly big change in my dedicated listening room.

My new system consists of the following: McIntosh MX170 theater processor, C53 preamp, MDT500 sacd player, MC462 2 channel amp, MC611 mono amp for center, and MC257 for surrounds and dolby Atmos heights. I also have a Oppo 205, a Panasonic UB9000 for 4k uhd's and a Roon Nucleus plus for Qobuz and Tidal streaming. My main speakers are Legacy Audio Aeris. I also have a PS Audio P20 power plant that I run most of system through.
Over the years I have purchased an assortment of audio cables from various companies like Kimber Kable, Shunyata Research, and Audioquest. I live in a fairly small town that does not have any higher end audio shops. So I use the internet to help guide me through my choices.

So my question to you guys is what are your thoughts on the Shunyata Research power cables. I have a couple of Venon HC v1's. I am on a budget for my cables so my range for now would be up to the delta series, I assume the NR V2 series would work for Mcintosh MX170 and C53 my Oppo 205 and the CX V2 for the McIntosh amplifiers. Is there a big difference between the Venom and Delta series? i would also need a 20 amp version for my P20.

Lastly, I became a Platinum subscriber to help support the forum. Any thoughts on the power cables would be greatly appreciated. Happy Listening
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Old 10-09-2020, 11:51 AM
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Old 10-09-2020, 01:42 PM
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I am on a budget for my cables so my range for now would be up to the delta series, I assume the NR V2 series would work for Mcintosh MX170 and C53 my Oppo 205 and the CX V2 for the McIntosh amplifiers. Is there a big difference between the Venom and Delta series? i would also need a 20 amp version for my P20.
In my experience, the short answer to the bolded question is "yes". Upgrading the power feed to my TEAC DAC from the Venom NR v10 to the Delta NR v1 effected a noticeable improvement in transient speed, resolution, and dynamic scaling. Upgrading the feed to my ARC LS16 line stage from a Venom NR v10 to the Delta NR v2 effected even greater perceived improvements in each of those areas and the sense of being "in the performance space". (Which is why I have a Delta NR v2 ordered for my DAC.)

If your budget permits, I consider the Delta series well worth it.
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In my experience, the short answer to the bolded question is "yes". Upgrading the power feed to my TEAC DAC from the Venom NR v10 to the Delta NR v1 effected a noticeable improvement in transient speed, resolution, and dynamic scaling. Upgrading the feed to my ARC LS16 line stage from a Venom NR v10 to the Delta NR v2 effected even greater perceived improvements in each of those areas and the sense of being "in the performance space". (Which is why I have a Delta NR v2 ordered for my DAC.)

If your budget permits, I consider the Delta series well worth it.
What Jim said.

Very accurate. If you are using a power distributor, you can also save some expenditure by getting a Delta XC to power your power distributor.

For future planning, you'll also get a big step on performance by getting the Denali V2 power distributor. The QR/BB device in the Denali is a game-changer. It will fundamentally change the nature of the presentation to be both more accurate and "musical" (i.e., sounding more like actual musical instruments rather than instruments reproduced by electronics).

Also...consider putting in a CopperCONN outlet in your wall receptacle
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So my question to you guys is what are your thoughts on the Shunyata Research power cables. I have a couple of Venon HC v1's. I am on a budget for my cables so my range for now would be up to the delta series, I assume the NR V2 series would work for Mcintosh MX170 and C53 my Oppo 205 and the CX V2 for the McIntosh amplifiers. Is there a big difference between the Venom and Delta series? i would also need a 20 amp version for my P20.
Delta XC v2 for your P20. Venom NR v10 for your amps, and v12 for everything else. If budget allows, replace the Venom on above with Delta NR v2
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Old 10-12-2020, 05:27 PM
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Delta XC v2 for your P20. Venom NR v10 for your amps, and v12 for everything else. If budget allows, replace the Venom on above with Delta NR v2
Thyname, thanks for the reply to my post. I went ahead and ordered a pair Delta XC for the Mcintosh amps from Ivan today. I plan on ordering the Venom NR v10 or V12, or the Delta NR cables for the Mx170, C53, Oppo 205 and UB900. For the MCT 500 safe transport using a Venom V14 digital or a NR v10 or V12. Was the CX the right choice for the McIntosh amplifiers?
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Thyname, thanks for the reply to my post. I went ahead and ordered a pair Delta XC for the Mcintosh amps from Ivan today. I plan on ordering the Venom NR v10 or V12, or the Delta NR cables for the Mx170, C53, Oppo 205 and UB900. For the MCT 500 safe transport using a Venom V14 digital or a NR v10 or V12. Was the CX the right choice for the McIntosh amplifiers?
I think your amps would benefit from the noise reduction on NR series. Without sacrificing much elsewhere
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I think your amps would benefit from the noise reduction on NR series. Without sacrificing much elsewhere
Agreed. XC power cables are designed for power distributors that provide built-in NR, or for components, e.g. my First Sound preamp, which have NR built into their (external) power supplies.

If I were running standalone amps plugged into the wall or plugged into a power distributor, I'd be using NR power cords for them.
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I'd buy his new Everest power distributor first. Shunyata.
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Agreed. XC power cables are designed for power distributors that provide built-in NR, or for components, e.g. my First Sound preamp, which have NR built into their (external) power supplies.

If I were running standalone amps plugged into the wall or plugged into a power distributor, I'd be using NR power cords for them.
Puma Cat, thanks for the clarification on the XC and NR for the power amplifiers. I contacted Ivan today and changed the order to the Delta Nr’s. I am still trying to decide on the Venom 10-12 NR or the Delta NR for the McIntosh MX170 processor and The C53 preamplifier, Would there be a big difference form the Venom to Delta’s? Thanks in advance for you input.
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