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Old 03-18-2019, 09:52 PM
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So I gave these a listen, late this afternoon, for almost an hour.
The associated equipment was a Moon integrated/dac/streamer with a Bluesound Node and a Moon CD player for a short time (there were no cd's at the dealer I knew well enough).

Overall, I found the presentation problematic for me and can't figure out if it was the room/setup or the speakers. When I crouched in front of each speaker, individually, and then when I backed up to a listening position, I seemed to hear 2 different characters.

When I was in the listening position, I found the bass kind of lacking and the presentation to be bright without a solid center image. I wouldn't characterize the sound as warm, really at all. I moved the speakers around a bit in the room and improved things marginally, but overall, my impression was that I probably wouldn't be able to tolerate these speakers.

I'm going to try to go back tomorrow and the dealer and I might put the speakers in a different room with different gear and see what happens.

The dealer said I'm the first person to say they sound bright and that perception has been the opposite for most listeners.

Overall, I was disappointed, but I'll see what happens tomorrow. I know I wouldn't have set the speakers up the way they were in the store. I think they were too far into the room and that could have been a factor.

They were very detailed and transparent through the mid and high frequencies. Some jazz I played sounded really good but when I got to rock music, it was tough to listen to. They seemed very sensitive to positioning in the dealer's room.

I think they're worth listening to again, though.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:41 PM
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So Ivan any thoughts or impressions on the L100 Classic?
No disrespect intended, but for the money you can do a lot better. Unless you’re just a die hard L100 Classic fan.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:33 AM
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No disrespect intended, but for the money you can do a lot better. Unless youre just a die hard L100 Classic fan.
Always good to hear your opinion.
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:33 PM
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I am a JBL Dealer for those interested.
Ivan, do you handle the Synthesis line of JBL? The 4367 has intrigued me for some time... I believe it was one of the last speakers designed by Greg Timbers before Harman (sadly) let him go.

Thanks, Kirk

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Old 04-03-2019, 08:30 AM
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This guy says these speakers are one of the better speakers on the market!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEAQi_vPstg

Here's another review

https://7review.com/jbl-l100-classic-review/


JBL L100 Classic vs JBL 4429 Horn speakers

The JBL L100's sounds better here !




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzQbK9gKjoI


Another video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMXRj-H5UNY

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Old 04-03-2019, 04:30 PM
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No disrespect intended, but for the money you can do a lot better. Unless youre just a die hard L100 Classic fan.
There are a lot of die hard L100 Classic fans out there!
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Old 04-03-2019, 07:52 PM
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Ivan, do you handle the Synthesis line of JBL? The 4367 has intrigued me for some time... I believe it was one of the last speakers designed by Greg Timbers before Harman (sadly) let him go.

Thanks, Kirk
Yes, on the Synthesis line of JBL.
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:49 AM
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JBL L100 Classic vs JBL 4429 Horn speakers

The JBL L100's sounds better here !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzQbK9gKjoI
Yeah, right! On a YouTube movie... ? The only thing you hear are your own speakers, nothing else.
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