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Old 04-25-2021, 03:20 PM
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Default Laptop to ? to Schiit dac

I use my laptop to play tidal and youtube adn have a ubs cable to the schiit dac.

Is the a way to make the signal from the pc cleaner.

I use the 82" tv as a screen to the laptop in my livingroom so i dont want a streamer had that befor but i want tidal an youtube on the tv and not the ipad.

Is there any thing that send the sound from the laptop thrue ethernet to a device that i dont know that is clean and the to the dac? and then i mean all sound from the computer.

Is there any device like that?
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Is there some audible issue you are trying to troubleshoot? Or do you just want to try to improve what is already good? The Yggdrasil A2 already has Schitt's Unison USB which handles USB perfectly well. The only thing that adding more components into the chain will do is add more chance for things to go wrong. I owned the Yggdrasil for a few years and tried putting Schitt's EITR in front of it (as well as another digital to digital converter) and I found no improvement.

I know there are others that will say you have to add in several esoteric pieces of equipment each with their own special power supplies and power cables and special signal cables linking everything together. Unless you have extra money that you are looking to spend and want to add complexity, I don't imagine this route will do much to give you a cleaner signal.
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I know there are others that will say you have to add in several esoteric pieces of equipment each with their own special power supplies and power cables and special signal cables linking everything together. Unless you have extra money that you are looking to spend and want to add complexity, I don't imagine this route will do much to give you a cleaner signal.
Yes, it will.

It will make a big difference.
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The direct answer is Yes. This product would allow you to untether your laptop from your DAC. It becomes your endpoint and is connected via USB to your DAC and via Ethernet to your network.

I have zero experience with one but there are many reviews of them.

https://sotm-usa.com/products/sms-20...twork-player-1
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The direct answer is Yes. This product would allow you to untether your laptop from your DAC. It becomes your endpoint and is connected via USB to your DAC and via Ethernet to your network.

I have zero experience with one but there are many reviews of them.

https://sotm-usa.com/products/sms-20...twork-player-1
Bingo.
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The sMS-200ultra Neo or ultra rendu is just a roon end point, right? or can all sound from the pc go through it?
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The sMS-200ultra Neo or ultra rendu is just a roon end point, right? or can all sound from the pc go through it?
The SMS-200 UltraNeo and Sonore UltraRendu are devices known as a "network bridge". The principal function of a network bridge is to take network input from the music server, and convert it to a digital output that a DAC can accept; usually via a USB cable and interface.

The network bridge connects on the input end via a physical network connection (usually copper Ethernet, but could also be optical fiber) to a digital source of content e.g. a music server, NUC, Roon Nucleus (preferably located well away from the audio rack), then on the output end, to your DAC or "endpoint". The network bridge is then connected to your DAC.

Here's a graphic representation of a basic setup.
Some routers have some RJ45 Ethernet ports built-in, in which case, you can forego the Ethernet switch shown, and just connect an Ethernet cable from your music server to directly to the Router, and another Ethernet cable from the Router that runs "downstream" to the network bridge in the audio rack.



Network bridges also generally have much better digital clocks than generic or consumer-grade networking devices, so you get better sound quality from using an audio-grade network bridge.

One of the most important things with respect to a simple setup like this is the quality of the power supplies used for the devices in the chain. Switch-mode power supplies are not good as they add leakage current to the chain of connections that results in an audible degradation of sound quality. Even the generic TP-link Ethernet switch shown above can be improved by using something as simple as Jameco Electronics Reliapro linear power supply for eleven bucks.

You can buy network bridges from a a coupla hundred bucks, e.g. a Raspberry pi-based one from Allo, etc., all the way to <$4K for an Auralic Aries G2 or dCS Network bridge.

A great place to start, though would be with a Sonore microRendu for $399.
https://www.sonore.us/microRendu.html.

Just be sure to get a good linear power supply for it. Small Green Computer sells some for devices in the price range of the microRendu for about $189 or so.

I use a network bridge from SoTM called the SMS-200 UltraNeo; it costs about $1200, so you can see there is a range of products with various price points along the way. Sonore also makes the ultraRendu which is an upgrade to the microRendu. Both are Roon-ready and will serve as a Roon endpoint, so you can stream content either from files resident on a hard drive or the Net via Tida or Qobuz from within Roon.

If you get something a bit better than the entry-level network bridges, consider a better power supply, too.

Ivan carries a line of really nice linear and very affordable power supplies that support two devices independently, from a company called Keces, and I use a Keces P3 for my SOtM SMS-200 UltraNeo. So, if you were to get say, a SOtM or UltraRendu, I would recommend the Keces P3 power supply for it from Ivan.

Hope this helps as an introduction.
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Puma Cat thank you for the explanation =)


Does your produkt support tidal connect?



And is it possible to “stream” all audio output from my pc to microRendu exactly like the usb output on the pc? What I mean is today I use the usb output from my pc to my dac but I want a device like the microRendu to play the audio from my pc to the dac. (from tidal, youtube, games and so on)

Or do i need Roon to play tidal?
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And this: https://www.sonore.us/ultraRendu.html
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