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Old 07-26-2014, 05:45 PM
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At those prices you have just forfeited your rights to making comments on the cost of Analog.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:32 AM
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At those prices you have just forfeited your rights to making comments on the cost of Analog.
Not something I have any interest in, having sold my Goldmund Studio and 5000 records many moons ago. These days even the hassle of dealing with thousands of silver disks is beyond me. Anything that can't be selected and managed from my iPad is far too much hassle!
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:47 AM
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custodian,

Thanks for the info. Any chance this will become a commercial product ?

I am using the Antelope clock & it does make a difference.

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Source 3 - DCS Vivaldi + Antelope reference clock or Cybershaft Op18 (not floating my boat so far)

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custodian, Thanks for the info. Any chance this will become a commercial product ? I am using the Antelope clock & it does make a difference. Regards, Joe Ling
The Antelope rubidium clock has quite poor phase noise. There are much better rubidium clocks available with improved phase noise and the BVA clock is an order of magnitude better again.

There is no problem in producing as BVA clock for HiFi use apart from cost. Having looked at costings, I think it would be at least $20k, maybe a bit more. Do you think there would be a market at that level?
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:31 PM
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Anything commercially available at the moment better than the Antelope ?
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Source 1 - Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LP-S + ARC ref phono 10 (should have done this ages ago)

Source 2 - Avid Acutus SP reference + Thales Reference tone arm + Benz Micro LPS (DS Audio Master 1 broken tip repaired but cost me USD2k. Still having issues - channel imbalance - back to dealer. However, channel issues not withstanding, sounded very very nice. Need to get it back soonest)

Source 3 - DCS Vivaldi + Antelope reference clock or Cybershaft Op18 (not floating my boat so far)

Source 5 - ROON ROCK with Aurender W20 as NAS & 2 units of SOTM switch with 10M input (the new frontier but still cannot beat CD for now) - ROON endpoint - Vivaldi upsampler

Amplification - Naim Statement

Speakers - ProAc Carbon 8 + JL FM113 x2 (replacement purchased - Stella Utopia EVO but due to lockdown, could be a year's wait)

Purepower 2000 x 2 (&$@#% but
sounds nice)

Shunyata Denali X 2
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:40 PM
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Anything commercially available at the moment better than the Antelope ?
I'll have a look at which rubidium clocks are used in the commercial units and get back to you. From memory, I think the Esoteric one uses a clock with better phase noise but I need to check. There is a commercial BVA clock for HiFi use made in Japan which retails at $35k but I think I could do an equivalent one for half that cost.
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Old 08-24-2014, 01:26 PM
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The longer the BVA clock operates, the better the phase noise performance. I must say the clock change to BVA has produced a staggering improvement in quality.
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Old 08-24-2014, 03:07 PM
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I have been using the Antelope Audio OCX clock master clock and a Stanford Research Systems Rubidium 10MHz oscillator (FS725). A material improvement to the internal clock of my Soulution 745 SACD/CD player. Interconnect and power cables also make a noticeable difference.
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Old 08-24-2014, 03:12 PM
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Old 08-24-2014, 05:41 PM
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The longer the BVA clock operates, the better the phase noise performance. I must say the clock change to BVA has produced a staggering improvement in quality.
I am very curious here. I have the Vivaldi Transport ordered...hopefully it'll be here in a week or so. I have kept my Scarlatti clock for the time being...I got to demo the Vivaldi Trans...and it made quite a difference in my system vs my dCS Scarlatti Trans...I don't know if the Vivaldi Clock...the clock specs to the Scarlatti are the same..the Vivaldi clock adds dual frequency outputs...which can be useful (but I can get the same results by pressing a button on Scarlatti to change the frequency and don't have to buy another cable)

Using the reference clock input I've always been curious about...

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