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Old 05-02-2016, 10:22 PM
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I don't think you'll think they're the holy grail. You may prefer Aerial 7Ts with subs...I look forward to talking to you. The PL500S have a much bigger sound. I really do love them, but you may not.

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My 7T's are in a dedicated room as part of a combo home theater. I have 4 subwoofers in the room which is 28x14. All 4 subs are Martin Logan, sealed and servo controlled. When I first got the 7T's I had ported subs but did not like them in conjunction with the 7's, they were just too hard to integrate. Not the case with the ML's. I power 2 of them off when listening to music. I was at a dealer a few months ago that carries the Aerials along with other some other speakers in the same price range. Some of them did go deeper but did not have the overall clarity and expansive sound stage that the 7's have. Different stroked I guess.
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My 7T's are in a dedicated room as part of a combo home theater. I have 4 subwoofers in the room which is 28x14. All 4 subs are Martin Logan, sealed and servo controlled. When I first got the 7T's I had ported subs but did not like them in conjunction with the 7's, they were just too hard to integrate. Not the case with the ML's. I power 2 of them off when listening to music. I was at a dealer a few months ago that carries the Aerials along with other some other speakers in the same price range. Some of them did go deeper but did not have the overall clarity and expansive sound stage that the 7's have. Different stroked I guess.
I do have a question for you. Are you high and low passing? And where. You've said 40hz and then said high pass at 80hz. I'd like to know what really works for you as our rooms are very close in size and to keep the 7Ts really clean of sub interaction I found that 40 hit it perfectly! Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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Hopefully this helps. This is one of 2 ML Depth i that I use during music playback. I also have 2 ML Descent i that I use along with the Descent i for movies.
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Hopefully this helps. This is one of 2 ML Depth i that I use during music playback. I also have 2 ML Descent i that I use along with the Descent i for movies.
I had a ML Depth i paired with Wilson Audio Sophia 3s a couple of years ago.
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I had a ML Depth i paired with Wilson Audio Sophia 3s a couple of years ago.
Thank you. It does give me an idea of how the Aerials match up with the MLs. Did you ever try engaging the high pass at its lowest setting. From what I've read from the sound doc you should never run your mains full range with a sub. For me that was my solution to a perfect blend of bass with the 7s. Of course rooms, personal preference etc. are all factors and whatever makes one happy is the way to go. Thanks again for the photos
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:24 AM
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I do not run my 7's full range, I cross them over at 40hz. I believe I tried every high pass option when setting up the ML's
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I do not run my 7's full range, I cross them over at 40hz. I believe I tried every high pass option when setting up the ML's
Thank you for the info. I couldn't make out whether the high pass was engaged or not. I like the fact the MLs give you so much adjustability.
I used the sound doctor CD and it helped immensely. Put my subs directly to outside of 7Ts,phase at 0 and polarity at 180. Volume at 11 o'clock. Crossover at 40HZ. High and low. Subs are 6 inches in front of mains. And angled to longest part of room. Must be my room but cannot make out subs in mix till lowest octave. Bass is very defined. That being said. Due to difference in cone materials I know I have subs working. Now my dilemma is go for full range speakers or be happy with a setup that meets most of what I need. Oh the joys of this wonderful hobby of ours. What to do, what to do.
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Old 05-09-2016, 05:19 PM
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Thank you for the info. I couldn't make out whether the high pass was engaged or not. I like the fact the MLs give you so much adjustability.
I used the sound doctor CD and it helped immensely. Put my subs directly to outside of 7Ts,phase at 0 and polarity at 180. Volume at 11 o'clock. Crossover at 40HZ. High and low. Subs are 6 inches in front of mains. And angled to longest part of room. Must be my room but cannot make out subs in mix till lowest octave. Bass is very defined. That being said. Due to difference in cone materials I know I have subs working. Now my dilemma is go for full range speakers or be happy with a setup that meets most of what I need. Oh the joys of this wonderful hobby of ours. What to do, what to do.
"What to do, what to do." It's hard because the 7Ts with subs are really, really great. When you start with something great, you don't get "night and day" differences. I'm really delighted with the change I've made and would do it all over again. My non-audiophile friends say there's a night and day difference, but to my ears there isn't. I do think in some areas there is a significant difference. Dynamics: the PL500s go from soft to loud in a way the Aerial 7Ts with subs just couldn't do. Voices are powerful and soft at the same time. The soundstage has more front to back placement...solo instruments/singers seem to step forward, although you continue to hear everything else that's going on. One of my non-audiophile friend's listened for the first time on Saturday- her comments were "they are very clear, you can hear the lows, highs and every thing so clearly." Bass is powerful if the recording has it, if it doesn't you won't hear artificial bass. I've listened to more music without one thought about what's wrong since I've had the PL500s. To me that's the strongest endorsement I can provide. No absolutes and your experience may be different.
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:40 PM
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I should add that with the Aerial 7Ts/ subs I listened with my volume control set on 72. With the PL500s the volume control is set at 66. When I do turn it to 72 WOW!
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