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Prefer to spend my $$ on goods from free societies that do not rely on stealing technology from others as the foundation of their business model. Has nothing to do with 'politically correct'.
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It is bringing joy of listening to the consumer while employing the workers putting labor into it, and bringing a small profit to the manufacturers, importers and dealers like any other product. How is it different if McIntosh uses parts sourced from China (some of their products are made in China). All the parts that go inside a McIntosh, ARC, Accuphase, Luxman, etc are made in various places and assembled somewhere. How can one compare the price of Accuphase to a PrimaLuna? A top notch preamp from PrimaLuna costs $4600 while an Accuphase preamp, by the time it is sold here in the US is $40K retail... Big difference, no? I'm not going to get into the law of diminishing returns here because that is a whole different topic we can discuss separately. |
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The PrimaLuna EVO Series Garners Rave Reviews Worldwide.
Dan (Jdandy) reviewed a PrimaLuna Prologue Premium a number of years ago. Dan was no slouch when evaluating quality. It was because of his review that I bought my PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium Integrated Amp, the predecessor to Serge’s (PHC1) Dialogue Premium HP.
Here is his review: PrimaLuna ProLogue Premium Integrated Amplifier Review https://www.audioaficionado.org/show...tosh+MC275+MkV
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I miss Dan... may he rest in peace... |
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Amen...
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Serge - if you want to spend your time pimping and $$ buying Chinese goods that's your business. However, when there are excellent alternatives (my Cary gear, for instance) at reasonable prices I will not purchase from a totalitarian country whose business practices are inconsistent with those of the free world, when given a choice. We each make our choices and live with them.
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Just sharing the well deserved accolades bestowed upon PrimaLuna. If I find it of value and inspiring enough to share my opinion on a good sounding audiophile piece, then I see that as a direct benefit to this forum and members who may not be familiar with PrimaLuna as a potential choice in their quest. It is up to each individual to decide once they do their research. I do not find anything objectionable to the fact it is assembled in China. How and where Herman van den Dungen, accomplishes the assembly of the tremendous bang for buck and great sounding PrimaLuna products is his problem. I am happy to listen to it in the context of my own system. It sits next to the Japanese integrated and drives my British speakers perched on top of Bavarian made stands. Speaker cables are American and my streamer is of Canadian origin... Quite the international brigade. Enjoy your Cary gear. I've owned some Dennis Had creations back in the day. One can buy Cary direct these days and at very discounted prices... https://carydirect.com/shop-now/inte...mplifiers.html Also, you may want to objectively think about what products are in your house and why you have a German car instead of a Ford? Last edited by PHC1; 12-29-2020 at 07:07 PM. |
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However, the largest exporter of automobiles (which includes SUVs) from North America has been BMW for several years (at least pre-pandemic - that may have changed in 2020). With a parent who fought in the ETO and father-in-law the Pacific, I often wonder about owning either German or Japanese vehicles. Not like Henry Ford was a very nice person, either. But, that was 75yr ago and China is 'current events'.
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I think that compensates for the assembled in China PrimaLuna. McIntosh is owned by the Italian Private Equity Group Quadrivio. The factory is in Binghamton NY. Where do profits go? It is almost pointless to discuss these things because chances are that there is not one single item that at least partially or some component in it was not built in China.... Especially electronic circuits. Hong Kong: US$134.5 billion (18.7% of exported electronic circuit components) China: $102.2 billion (14.2%) Taiwan: $100.4 billion (13.9%) South Korea: $79.1 billion (11%) Singapore: $76.9 billion (10.7%) Malaysia: $44.8 billion (6.2%) United States: $40.1 billion (5.6%) Japan: $27.8 billion (3.9%) |
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