Finally traded my ET3 for ET3SE

[joeinid]

Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor

OK found the note from Allen that was published:



Regards,

Allen Wright

Vacuum State Electronics

Sadly Allen Wright passed away last year.


This High End Hi-Fi company was founded in Australia in 1982 by its managing director Allen Wright (1947-2011).
Since 2005 Vacuum State is located in Schaffhausen, Switzerland.

[skroudo]

Originally Posted by ronenash

Congrats Josh,
This is an upgrade well worth your investment. The only down side is the break in time. I connected my preamp with a constant radio source on for three weeks which took care of most of the break in. just make sure its connected to your power amp when you do this. The power amp can stay off.

Thank you my friend.
This is a great idea, I'm thinking that maybe I would like to hear the progress of the breaking in, crazy me

[joeinid]

Originally Posted by skroudo

Thank you my friend.
This is a great idea, I'm thinking that maybe I would like to hear the progress of the breaking in, crazy me

I'm the same way. I want to enjoy the ride. One cool thing is one day you will be listening and think to yourself. Holy cow! what just happened, and you realize everything settled in and the break in process is done. Pure magic.

[skroudo]

Originally Posted by joeinid

I'm the same way. I want to enjoy the ride. One cool thing is one day you will be listening and think to yourself. Holy cow! what just happened, and you realize everything settled in and the break in process is done. Pure magic.

LOL..... Agree !!!!

[skroudo]

10 hours on my new CJ ET3SE and 290 hours to go, and I'm amazed how good it's already sound

[ronenash]

Originally Posted by skroudo

10 hours on my new CJ ET3SE and 290 hours to go, and I'm amazed how good it's already sound

Josh, you will soon experience the funky teflon break in behaviour. Sounds great one day and horrid the other.

Here is a description of what you can expect that I read on the net in the past. It match quite closely my experience.


I get more calls about products utilizing Teflon capacitors than any other type of capacitor. Teflon capacitors take a solid 400 hours to reach about 90% of their true potential and their true colors open up at the 600 hour mark. It has also been established that they will even continue to change, ever so slightly, up to 1200 hours. You may not notice these changes and I only mention it to give you an indication of the characteristics of Teflon.

During the break-in cycle of these capacitors, they will go through different stages. During the initial 150 hours, you will notice these capacitors will do a two steps forward, one step back routine. What you will notice is that one day you system may sound fine while the next day (after it's one step back) it will not sound as good as it did even the day before. This is the stage where the capacitors can actually sound broken. Don't be alarmed, it's simply the nature of Teflon.

What you will notice is a 2 dimensional sound. The bass may be uncontrolled, the midrange a bit foggy and a lack of air and extension. Absolutely no coherency.

After 150 hours, the capacitors start to stabilize. From this point onward, they will be more consistent in their progress. They will still only be at about 50% of their sonic potential but the one step back issue is gone. This stage will last to about the 200-250 hour mark. This is where they start to become more 'listenable' but you are till only half way there.

The bass should start getting better here and the highs a bit more extended but the midrange is not quite there yet.

Now that you have gone through the ugly stages and have reached the 300 hour mark, things are starting to come into focus. Teflon capacitors start coming into their own between 300 and 400 hours. You may still noticed a few quirks but they should be minimal at this point. You have have more control down below, the midrange is becoming more real and the upper end is starting to extend further. This is when I usually receive the phone calls telling me I was absolutely correct about what to expect.

One you reach the 400 hour mark, you are starting to reach sonic nirvana and it will not be long before you are experiencing the truest potential of Teflon capacitors. It's been a long road but you will probably find the journey well worth it. This is the point where the midrange magic is apparent. You should notice a sense of texture and realism that is uncanny. The bass is quick and firm and the highs extended with a great sense of air. You will now start realizing a wide, spacious presentation as well. At this point, I don't receive any phone calls at all as you will be too involved in your music to want to waste time talking to me.

After 400 hours........... Heaven.


Enjoy the ride

[skroudo]

Originally Posted by ronenash

Josh, you will soon experience the funky teflon break in behaviour. Sounds great one day and horrid the other.

Here is a description of what you can expect that I read on the net in the past. It match quite closely my experience.


I get more calls about products utilizing Teflon capacitors than any other type of capacitor. Teflon capacitors take a solid 400 hours to reach about 90% of their true potential and their true colors open up at the 600 hour mark. It has also been established that they will even continue to change, ever so slightly, up to 1200 hours. You may not notice these changes and I only mention it to give you an indication of the characteristics of Teflon.

During the break-in cycle of these capacitors, they will go through different stages. During the initial 150 hours, you will notice these capacitors will do a two steps forward, one step back routine. What you will notice is that one day you system may sound fine while the next day (after it's one step back) it will not sound as good as it did even the day before. This is the stage where the capacitors can actually sound broken. Don't be alarmed, it's simply the nature of Teflon.

What you will notice is a 2 dimensional sound. The bass may be uncontrolled, the midrange a bit foggy and a lack of air and extension. Absolutely no coherency.

After 150 hours, the capacitors start to stabilize. From this point onward, they will be more consistent in their progress. They will still only be at about 50% of their sonic potential but the one step back issue is gone. This stage will last to about the 200-250 hour mark. This is where they start to become more 'listenable' but you are till only half way there.

The bass should start getting better here and the highs a bit more extended but the midrange is not quite there yet.

Now that you have gone through the ugly stages and have reached the 300 hour mark, things are starting to come into focus. Teflon capacitors start coming into their own between 300 and 400 hours. You may still noticed a few quirks but they should be minimal at this point. You have have more control down below, the midrange is becoming more real and the upper end is starting to extend further. This is when I usually receive the phone calls telling me I was absolutely correct about what to expect.

One you reach the 400 hour mark, you are starting to reach sonic nirvana and it will not be long before you are experiencing the truest potential of Teflon capacitors. It's been a long road but you will probably find the journey well worth it. This is the point where the midrange magic is apparent. You should notice a sense of texture and realism that is uncanny. The bass is quick and firm and the highs extended with a great sense of air. You will now start realizing a wide, spacious presentation as well. At this point, I don't receive any phone calls at all as you will be too involved in your music to want to waste time talking to me.

After 400 hours........... Heaven.


Enjoy the ride

Man, I will retired before my CJ will break in, and I'm only 45, but it's going to be a wonderful sounding retirement

[rthomeint]

Originally Posted by ronenash

Josh, you will soon experience the funky teflon break in behaviour. Sounds great one day and horrid the other.

Here is a description of what you can expect that I read on the net in the past. It match quite closely my experience.


I get more calls about products utilizing Teflon capacitors than any other type of capacitor. Teflon capacitors take a solid 400 hours to reach about 90% of their true potential and their true colors open up at the 600 hour mark. It has also been established that they will even continue to change, ever so slightly, up to 1200 hours. You may not notice these changes and I only mention it to give you an indication of the characteristics of Teflon.

During the break-in cycle of these capacitors, they will go through different stages. During the initial 150 hours, you will notice these capacitors will do a two steps forward, one step back routine. What you will notice is that one day you system may sound fine while the next day (after it's one step back) it will not sound as good as it did even the day before. This is the stage where the capacitors can actually sound broken. Don't be alarmed, it's simply the nature of Teflon.

What you will notice is a 2 dimensional sound. The bass may be uncontrolled, the midrange a bit foggy and a lack of air and extension. Absolutely no coherency.

After 150 hours, the capacitors start to stabilize. From this point onward, they will be more consistent in their progress. They will still only be at about 50% of their sonic potential but the one step back issue is gone. This stage will last to about the 200-250 hour mark. This is where they start to become more 'listenable' but you are till only half way there.

The bass should start getting better here and the highs a bit more extended but the midrange is not quite there yet.

Now that you have gone through the ugly stages and have reached the 300 hour mark, things are starting to come into focus. Teflon capacitors start coming into their own between 300 and 400 hours. You may still noticed a few quirks but they should be minimal at this point. You have have more control down below, the midrange is becoming more real and the upper end is starting to extend further. This is when I usually receive the phone calls telling me I was absolutely correct about what to expect.

One you reach the 400 hour mark, you are starting to reach sonic nirvana and it will not be long before you are experiencing the truest potential of Teflon capacitors. It's been a long road but you will probably find the journey well worth it. This is the point where the midrange magic is apparent. You should notice a sense of texture and realism that is uncanny. The bass is quick and firm and the highs extended with a great sense of air. You will now start realizing a wide, spacious presentation as well. At this point, I don't receive any phone calls at all as you will be too involved in your music to want to waste time talking to me.

After 400 hours........... Heaven.


Enjoy the ride

I concur with your statement I found that with my HD3 it took a big step back around hour 200, I let it cook for a few days and that was the last turn backwards. After that it started to open up. I have been taking the burn in process is stride with my Met150. I've been running it 8 to 12 hours on then off for 1 hour. I have 12 hours to go before I hit 300. At this stage I find it over all better that my Premier 11. I can't wait to hear it around the 600 hour mark.

[skroudo]

Originally Posted by rthomeint

I concur with your statement I found that with my HD3 it took a big step back around hour 200, I let it cook for a few days and that was the last turn backwards. After that it started to open up. I have been taking the burn in process is stride with my Met150. I've been running it 8 to 12 hours on then off for 1 hour. I have 12 hours to go before I hit 300. At this stage I find it over all better that my Premier 11. I can't wait to hear it around the 600 hour mark.

Any news?

I'm in the 200h of my CJ ET3 SE and it's is sound like it took a big step back, I can't wait to pass the 300h, it's killing me, one day it's sound great and the next day it's sound totally flat

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[rthomeint]

On My Met150 I ran it for about 15 hours a day until I got to hour 500. Once I got past hour 300 it stopped taking those giant steps back I'm at around hour 560 and it pretty well stable, sounding great. I think it 95+ % done. I like this amp more than my Premier 11A. Are pumping signal thru it went not listening?