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Old 03-03-2015, 05:44 PM
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That is a software+hardware difference. Jitter sounds like one hand clapping.

Sorta like why does a Meridian Explorer not sound as good as a MDA1K... Well, it's not jitter.
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I mentioned jitter thinking it may be a consequence of interpolation. Silenzio to K-01 playing 16/44.1 sounds better than Sonos to Remedy to K-01 playing 24/96 and I was trying to figure out why?
Hi Randy, that is a head scratcher.

1- Perhaps, 16/44.1 is the native rate and there is no up sampling filter to introduce other sounds/effects.

2- The Silenzio home built PC is probably a much better source than the $400 Sonos Connect. It should sound superior , it costs much more, and there is great amount of thought put into it's hand picked components. Try going direct (Sonos Coax to Coax Digital in), I think you will still find the Silenzio is better player.

Of note: converting from 16 bit to 24bit is padding the waveform with zeros- no audible effect. 11111111111111100000000 - pad 8 bits for a 24 bit word. You are right by saying increases in sample rate will get you more interpolation.

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Sonos direct to K-01 does not sound as good as Sonos to Remedy to K-01.
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Then, it's most likely no-2
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All oversampling is upsampling. This is basicly the same thing.

Oversampling (or upsampling for that matter) has absolutely nothing to do with reading a CD (!).

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Elberoth - I was overstating an oversimplification of the multiplier from something a looooooong time ago. Post above removed to eliminate confusion.

Soundstage actually has a good article from way back in 2003 that best explains the differences between the two. I'd recommend anybody to go take a read at that. (easy enough to google)
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I wouldn't get too wrapped around the axle on this one.

Simply, play your music at it's native rate. If you like big numbers, such as 24bit/192Khz, then by all means buy the music you like, that's recorded at that bit and sample rate, and enjoy it through one of the best server and DACs combinations that are out there.
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I wouldn't get too wrapped around the axle on this one. Simply, play your music at it's native rate. If you like big numbers, such as 24bit/192Khz, then by all means buy the music you like, that's recorded at that bit and sample rate, and enjoy it through one of the best server and DACs combinations that are out there.
Bill, my panties are not in a twist on this issue, but part of the hobby for me is understanding what I am trying to do.

I didn't want to pay for upsampled files if I could make them. I don't want to pay for high-res if I am merely getting upsampled files. And I wondered why 16/44.1 (Silenzio to K-01) sounded better than 24/96 (Sonos to Remedy to K-01). It's all good.
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