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Old 12-06-2020, 01:04 PM
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My new CMMG Banshee MkG PCC (pistol caliber carbine) in .45ACP arrived today after a 14 week wait.

Due to the COVID they ended up closing up the productin facility, then they re-commenced production after a 2-month hiatus with a huge backlog of orders to produce. They could only work about 1/2 a crew at a time to comply with social distancing requirements. So it took a while to fill my order.

I believe it will be worth the wait if my last PCC is any indication. I had a Kriss CRB 20 and, while it was a fine weapon, it was a bit ungainly for CQB in-close operation. Here is a pic of the Kriss:



I'm looking forward to mounting the optic and sighting it in. But first things first... I'll tear it down, inspect, clean and lube it first. Then I'll make sure to do an operational check without ammo and, lastly and finally, I'll hit the range.

So here is the Banshee:





Once I get the optic on it, an EoTech 512, and chuck in one of those glorious Glock 21 extended 26 round magazines, it should look just like this:



Fun times ahead!
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:03 PM
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That is on fine looking gun. Fine times, indeed. Enjoy, Michael.

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Old 12-07-2020, 08:50 PM
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Thanks, Scott.

First test comes on Wednesday at the range.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:04 AM
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Congrats! I have read good things about CMMG. Look forward to your impressions after shooting it.

I have two 9mm PCC's, a CZ Scorpion and the new Sig Sauer MPX PCC Competition. Both with 16" barrels. Shooting PCC's really are like cheating from 60 yards on in.
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Old 12-18-2020, 03:04 PM
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Terry...I've found the CMMG to be very accurate now that I have it sighted in with the EoTech optic.

The delayed blowback design mitigates any recoil you might feel. It's definitely a soft shooter compared to a 1911 probably due to weight.

Target re-acquisition is fantastic. The "brace" actually extends a bit so the weapon can be shouldered when wanted or needed. It makes for a very accurate and mobile weapon even at longer distances up to 50yds or so.

However, ballistically this piece is best used at shorter distances for best results. I have it sighted in for 25 yds and have figured out the holdover for 50. Even at that distance it's gonna pack a significant punch.

I did add a small foregrip to insure that my hand doesn't slip forward of that short barrel and into the line of fire. I suspect that might leave a mark.

I've only fired it at an indoor range so far. Soon I will be navigating out to some semi-improved shooting areas on BLM land just east of me to ring some steel.
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Great looking PCC. Curious it's not available in .40 Cal.
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Great looking PCC. Curious it's not available in .40 Cal.
Thanks. It is proving to be a great firearm for me.

The .40 seems to be losing popularity. I don't see it completely dying off but I do see use falling behind the 10mm and .45 ACP by a considerable margin simply due to power and ballistic shortcomings.

As a comparison, consider that the larger and faster 10mm will give 624 foot-pounds of muzzle energy when sending a 180-grain bullet at 1,250 fps, while the .40 S&W comes in at 400 foot-pounds with its 1,000 fps velocity, making for a rather significant difference. You can lighten the bullet grain weight somewhat but it still won't pack the same power at comparable distances.

However, .40 S&W is still a viable round and hit has its followers. My personal preference has been, and always will be, .45 ACP.
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One can debate ballistics all day long and I also prefer the .45 ACP but the only thing that really matters is proficiency with your firearm if intended for self defense.

Praying that the day it needs to come out never comes, should also be right up there in priorities..

Punching holes in paper can just as easily be done with a .22 as with the .454 Casull.
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Plinking and punching with .22LR is fun and all. I do it a lot.

However, I also take the other weapons out of the locker and practice, practice, practice with each of them. Practice equals proficiency when, and if ever, the need arises.

Oh...and that .454 Casull???? Practice, Practice, Practice makes for a very sore hand & forearm!
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Plinking and punching with .22LR is fun and all. I do it a lot.

However, I also take the other weapons out of the locker and practice, practice, practice with each of them. Practice equals proficiency when, and if ever, the need arises.

Oh...and that .454 Casull???? Practice, Practice, Practice makes for a very sore hand & forearm!
Practice indeed. I used to reload back in the day (Square Deal B from Dillon Precision) so 500+ rounds of .45 ACP would be the norm to bring to the range.

It was a lot of fun working up loads for accuracy/bullseye in the .45 and 9mm that I primarily used to shoot. Amazing how much accuracy can be gained from custom loads.


My favorite Springfield Armory 1911 with lot's of Wilson Combat parts had over 10,000 rounds on it and still going strong when I finally sold it. A true workhorse. I have the Trophy Match 1911 from them to this day.

Always wanted a nice custom Wilson Combat 1911 but never got around to it. Not nearly into it so no desire for a custom handgun anymore but I still try to practice regularly and stay proficient.


I'd love to study with Vitaly K for a day or two if I ever had that chance.

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