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I get that because the concept of resolution is "so endlessly misleading for so many people" that such articles must be written. The first article goes so far as to spread misinformation to make its point. Is this the sort of article we should parade about as being 'good clean thinking'?
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Case in point. Your subjective answer here (below). Side note:So if you're not poking the bear here, then please help this discussion by going back to "objective." Quote:
See Beck's Morning Phase for a album where the artist purposely puts noise in the recording. Quote:
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Whoa, hold on. It was not my intent to annoy or piss-off you or anyone. My only issue with the first article of this thread was the author's proclomation that there is no resolution. Further links seem to support the notion that resolution does indeed exist. If my harping on the existance of resolution is what you find ridiculous, then I'm sorry and I should be the one that is done here. Really, didn't mean to annoy you. Please continue.
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Very interesting discussion of dither. Thanks.
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Of course there is resolution. The "noise" that is being referred when using a lower
bit conversion is actually errors, i.e. assigning more sound samples to one byte (in the case of a ADC). That is why a four bit ADC will be a poor sounding ADC. When getting back that signal back to analog with a (4-bit) DAC, that byte is fixed so it will map to one sound and one sound only. You won't find the degree of variations (a tiny little more amplitude of the same tone for example) and thus it'll sound like an approximation of the real sound. The more bits you have the less "errors", again called noise, so you get a greater ratio between the real signal and the difference between the original and the converted one, this is the SNR. The bigger the SNR the better. That is why many new digital recordings are going directly to multi-track DSD -- all channels with the highest resolution and sampling frequency that exists today. Why are CDs 16-bits only? Partly because of the technology at the time when the format started and partly because I don't think it was perceived that more was needed at the time. There is also the physical media limits. The sampling frequency was defined by Nyquist, so combining all these was believed to be sufficient.
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Below is an excellent example of what dithering can do to reduce quantization noise.
Yes, it is a form of noise, but works extremely well. Even in mechanical systems*. *Wikipedia - nice example of early dither - "…[O]ne of the earliest [applications] of dither came in World War II. Airplane bombers used mechanical computers to perform navigation and bomb trajectory calculations. Curiously, these computers (boxes filled with hundreds of gears and cogs) performed more accurately when flying on board the aircraft, and less well on ground. Engineers realized that the vibration from the aircraft reduced the error from sticky moving parts. Instead of moving in short jerks, they moved more continuously. Small vibrating motors were built into the computers, and their vibration was called dither from the Middle English verb "didderen," meaning "to tremble." Today, when you tap a mechanical meter to increase its accuracy, you are applying dither, and modern dictionaries define dither as a highly nervous, confused, or agitated state. In minute quantities, dither successfully makes a digitization system a little more analog in the good sense of the word." — Ken Pohlmann, Principles of Digital Audio[1]
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Good post
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