PMC PB1i

[BuffaloBill]

Originally Posted by wpines

DanThree ordinary drivers and an unremarkable cabinet is a description of dozens if not hundreds of the speakers we buy, not just PMC.

unremarkable cabinet..I did not realize that there were dozens if not hundreds of speakers with cabinets containing advanced transmission line technology. I think it is the other way around, dozens if not hundreds of speakers with cabinets based on relatively simple sealed and ported designs.

I will agree with you on one point, I would not pay $15k for the EB1i (or any other speaker). I paid less than 1/3 of that amount for my OB1i and have essentially the same performance down to the 30-35Hz range. Since I do not have a large listening room, do not listen at high SPLs, and never listen to pipe organ music in particular, I am most satisfied.

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by wpines

Dan,
Reread my statement.
I wasn't comparing Revel to PMC and I wasn't slamming PMC.
What I was admittedly slamming was the overt rationalization of "full retail price the PMC EB1i is worth every penny, and then some" for what boils down to $1,000 worth of electronics in $1,000 worth of cabinet.
That leaves $13k for the "executed design concept". PT Barnum executed a design concept too.
Three ordinary drivers and an unremarkable cabinet is a description of dozens if not hundreds of the speakers we buy, not just PMC.
All of those boxes sound different and you like the sound of yours better but rationalizing $15,000 for 3 drivers in a wooden box with ANYBODY's badge on it is ridiculous.
Your defense of your brand preference is over the top.
$15,000 could feed a village for a year.

Brad.......I did not misread, or misunderstand your post. I personally believe the PMC speakers I own are worth their price. You obviously think the Revels are worth their price. Lovely. We are both entitled to our differing opinions of both speakers relative values.

At $20,000+ a pair new, with discounted pricing around $15,000, Harman International isn't exactly giving away the Revel Ultima Salon 2, either. I have listened to the Revel Ultima Salon 2, as well as the Studio 2, and thought they sounded very good. Ok, you get six speakers in a wooden box with lots of rounded shapes and dimples, all metal drivers, a 4-way crossover, and a cute little terminal compartment with a cover. Is that worth $20K? You can rationalize that answer, because you bought them.

I am not defending anything. I am addressing your comments. I simply made a statement that I am happy with my speaker purchase, and believe its value, performace, and quality are worth the price, and believe the PMC EB1i's outperform many other speakers costing considerably more. I have no problem if you don't agree with my evaluation.

By the way, I already feed several villages of people I don't know. It's called federal income tax. If you wish to make additional contributions, please be my guest.

[BuffaloBill]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Brad.......By the way, I already feed several villages of people I don't know. It's called federal income tax. If you wish to make additional contributions, please be my guest.

On that we can agree, not to mention the high property taxes here in Texas. No wonder Governor Rick Perry has been able to balance the state budget.

[MC352]

This is a perfect example of - To Each Their Own

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by MC352

This is a perfect example of - To Each Their Own

Chuck.......Exactly. I believe I made that point earlier, but it disappeared like water through a sieve.

[Jerome W]

Originally Posted by jdandy

I believe the PMC EB1i's outperform many other speakers costing considerably more.

I totally agree with you DAN and you know it already.
By courtesy to other decent speaker makers, I will not give any more example, as I gave many in the past, but I too consider the EB1i to be better than speakers costing a LOT MORE money.
Their dress is very common for sure, but their sound is a never - ending amazing experience. That's the kind of lady nobody will notice when she's in the street. But in the bedroom, she is the sweetest wonder in the world !

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by C220MC275

I totally agree with you DAN and you know it already.
By courtesy to other decent speaker makers, I will not give any more example, as I gave many in the past, but I too consider the EB1i to be better than speakers costing a LOT MORE money.
Their dress is very common for sure, but their sound is a never - ending amazing experience. That's the kind of lady nobody will notice when she's in the street. But in the bedroom, she is the sweetest wonder in the world !

Jérôme.......That is a wonderful analogy. Fire and ice.

[Jerome W]

Originally Posted by PHC1

I've never auditioned PMC but I keep reading about the midrange being a bit too enthusiastic in various reviews.

Comments like " Installing the EB1i in place of the more expensive B&W 802D brought about a fairly big change in balance. Essentially the midrange seemed more prominent, a factor that had a dramatic effect on albums like Gillian Welch’s Time The Revelator. This recording has often hinted at a slight edginess but in the PMC’s hands became almost uncomfortable due to that exposure through the midband."

PMC owners, what are your thoughts on this? Have you noticed a too prominent midrange with your speakers?

Serge,
my EB1i are totally flat. Especially since the 2301's replaced the 501's...

[f1 fan]

Originally Posted by C220MC275

I totally agree with you DAN and you know it already.
By courtesy to other decent speaker makers, I will not give any more example, as I gave many in the past, but I too consider the EB1i to be better than speakers costing a LOT MORE money.
Their dress is very common for sure, but their sound is a never - ending amazing experience. That's the kind of lady nobody will notice when she's in the street. But in the bedroom, she is the sweetest wonder in the world !

+1...it's not the length or width of the ship that matters, its the slow roll of the ocean that counts

Dave