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Old 12-04-2009, 08:59 PM
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David.......I guess if you ever decide to get into club DJing, you will already have half the set up.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:04 AM
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David.......I guess if you ever decide to get into club DJing, you will already have half the set up.
Yeah right I know.... but after selling 3 million tt technics is going to stop manufacturing them. I wish they would have improved the tone arm because the magnetic direct drive mechanism has some amazing specs. . I may actually buy a SME309 tone arm like they did in tone audio. If I decide to change tt later, I can always use the SME309 or sell it.
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:25 PM
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Yeah right I know.... but after selling 3 million tt technics is going to stop manufacturing them. I wish they would have improved the tone arm because the magnetic direct drive mechanism has some amazing specs. . I may actually buy a SME309 tone arm like they did in tone audio. If I decide to change tt later, I can always use the SME309 or sell it.
David.......Yep. A $2200.00 tonearm on a $600.00 turntable. Sounds like a plan.


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Old 12-05-2009, 03:37 PM
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I had a gold SL1200, but sold it because I didn't use it. Now I regret it.

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Old 12-05-2009, 03:43 PM
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I just checked Musicians Friend web site, and they are already showing the SL1200MkV discontinued. Amazon still has them.
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David.......Yep. A $2200.00 tonearm on a $600.00 turntable. Sounds like a plan.


I agree $2200 does not make much sense. That is what has stopped me, but I have seen the SME 309 tone arms on audiogon for 1 k.
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So if this is true, why does everyone knock the SL1200. It would seem that with a external power supply and good tone arm this would be a pretty good TT. "Direct Drive with no direct gearing such as a Technics SL1200-MK2 uses a donut shaped electromagnet and the physics of like polarities repelling each other to make the platter spin. No motors are even used." Wouldn't this kind of technology reduce, even eliminate, vibrations caused by purely mechanical drives(belt or otherwise)?
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:30 AM
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David, the SL1200-MK2 is a good TT.
Many folks own and love that table.
It's just like anything else though, there is always something better out there, if you want it.
You just have to figure out whether you think you can get more musical enjoyment out of a different TT.
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"Direct Drive with no direct gearing such as a Technics SL1200-MK2 uses a donut shaped electromagnet and the physics of like polarities repelling each other to make the platter spin. No motors are even used." Wouldn't this kind of technology reduce, even eliminate, vibrations caused by purely mechanical drives(belt or otherwise)?
David.......Direct drive is a motor. What you described, like polarities repelling each other, is the fundamental characteristic of all electric motor theory, both AC and DC.

You might find this site interesting. Electric motors and generators
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:07 PM
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Dan this is what it says in wikipedia "the turntable is never powered up without the platter attached). At the underside of the platter there is a large magnet which, once placed over the spindle, surrounds the coils and forms the motor drive thus eliminating loss through power transfer. The SL-1200 utilizes a Frequency Generator Servo Control Quartz Lock system that is claimed to produce the most accurate and consistent speed possible. The system is immune to static and dynamic stylus drag which would otherwise cause unwanted speed variances that change the pitch and tempo of the music. Due to these strengths the SL-1200 lends itself to both Hi-Fi reproduction and demanding DJ usage." ( Technics SL-1200 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) The platter is actually part of the motor.

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