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Old 10-08-2011, 11:11 AM
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My record collection has doubled in the past few months and I find myself only able to have long listening sessions now with vinyl. I have some albums on both LP vinyl and Cd and when I do a side by side comparison, analog always wins in the sound that I prefer. I almost never listen to streaming anymore, ie Rhapsody or Pandora. I prefer listening to my CD's using Pure music software and the Halide bridge when I listen to playing the CD's in my MCD500. I may sell my MCD500 and just get a Wyred for sound DAC. I never thought that last century technology would be so impressive compared to CD.
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Old 10-08-2011, 11:17 AM
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Incredible update. Almost speechless about your mcd500, wow.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:23 PM
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I've had exactly the same experience, vinyl always wins. And record collections have a habit of growing like weeds. I probably have twice the LPs I had when I got back into audio three years ago. And it was vinyl that made me realize what I had been missing all along!

This really happened when I got my Koetsu Vermilion, or when I started using the Shelter on my Michell with my Bob's Device's SUT. And I prefer my digital content via my MS Streamer Pro to my Oppo BD-83SE, mostly out of convenience as the Streamer sounds every bit as good as the Oppo. The only time I use the Oppo is to listen to SACDs.

The way I look at digital content now is to rip it and put it on the Music Server.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:51 PM
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David, your system sounds great in all configurations per my ears, so it's great to know that vinyl has grown into such a delight for you.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:22 PM
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It took me perhaps 3 years to even try digital. I had an analog system, well many analog systems for years prior and had heard CD a few times and never liked what I had heard. I finally broke down and decided to get a player just in case I wanted some release which was only available on CD or someone else wanted to use the thing. I never loan Lps and figured CD might be different somehow (...not).

Long story made short, it took many system upgrades and many thousands of dollars worth of digital gear to even get near the performance of my Rega Planar 2 turntable. There was always a sonic trade-off. These days, digital has caught up a bit and finally prices for nice digital gear are in the ball park of where analog gear was. In fact, you could spend a lot more on analog gear now to try and meet some aspects of modern digital sound. Even though digital has finally "arrived", I still use my analog rig and have no plans to liquidate my Lp collection.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:31 PM
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David,
I agree.
Vinyl always wins when played on a good table / arm /cart like yours.
My both TT's outperform my MDA by such a high margin that the MCD1100 has no
more interest for me.
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My record collection has doubled in the past few months and I find myself only able to have long listening sessions now with vinyl. I have some albums on both LP vinyl and Cd and when I do a side by side comparison, analog always wins in the sound that I prefer. I almost never listen to streaming anymore, ie Rhapsody or Pandora. I prefer listening to my CD's using Pure music software and the Halide bridge when I listen to playing the CD's in my MCD500. I may sell my MCD500 and just get a Wyred for sound DAC. I never thought that last century technology would be so impressive compared to CD.

Nothing is worth a good analogical system
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Vinyl always wins when played on a good table / arm /cart like yours.
My both TT's outperform my MDA by such a high margin that the MCD1100 has no more interest for me.
Jérôme.......I have rediscovered vinyl, and have a fair investment in my new vinyl playback rig. I am enjoying vinyl more now than I ever have, even going back to my vinyl only days before CD was invented. None the less, I believe digital gives vinyl serious competition, and in some ways it is better. For me, vinyl playback is about having another excellent analog source, not a replacement for my digital sources. Vinyl is far from a perfect playback medium with its inherent peculiarities. The same is true for digital, but modern digital playback advances deliver amazing playback quality with properly engineered and recorded material. Source material makes or breaks digital and vinyl playback.

The MCD1100 may no longer interest you, but as an owner of this amazing component I can say that until you have heard it in your system with a great disc you don't have any idea what you are passing up. I am not trying to be argumentative, just offering my personal opinion on the topic. I have never thought it was logical to abandon one high quality source in favor of another. I prefer to embrace them both.
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