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Old 08-21-2011, 04:11 PM
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I was walking around the room with the ASC tube trap in my hands while the music was playing and noticed how the tube trap got "excited" in my hands in one area of the room. I haven't explored this further but moving the tube trap around over a foot or so while holding it would either decrease or increase the felt vibration in my hand. Almost like a metal detector sweep. Is there any value to this? Can a tube trap "sniff out" the room nodes and be used to find these problem areas? I thought the ASC guru's may have an answer?
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I was walking around the room with the ASC tube trap in my hands while the music was playing and noticed how the tube trap got "excited" in my hands in one area of the room. I haven't explored this further but moving the tube trap around over a foot or so while holding it would either decrease or increase the felt vibration in my hand. Almost like a metal detector sweep. Is there any value to this? Can a tube trap "sniff out" the room nodes and be used to find these problem areas? I thought the ASC guru's may have an answer?
I experienced exactly the same, both with tube traps and while moving around my room with an acoustic guitar while the stereo was playing a bass-heavy track and, yes, a foot (or even less) made a big difference.

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I experienced exactly the same, both with tube traps and while moving around my room with an acoustic guitar while the stereo was playing a bass-heavy track and, yes, a foot (or even less) made a big difference.

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Hmm, Alberto, I think there is an idea here for a product like the "Room Mode Sniffer"

I know there are plenty of "room mode calcs" out there but a handheld device would be cool. I wonder if something like the Radio Shack SPL meter can be used while walking around the room and playing bass test frequencies? I've never tried that.

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Hmm, Alberto, I think there is an idea here for a product like the "Room Modes Sniffer"

I know there are plenty of "room mode calcs" out there but a handheld device would be cool. I wonder if something like the Radio Shack SPL meter can be used while walking around the room and playing bass test frequencies? I've never tried that.
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