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Old 01-24-2020, 09:49 PM
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Thumbs up ADD-Powr listening impressions!

Ok, today was a fairly busy day for me but each time I had a break, I installed some of my new ADD-Powr units.

First, I installed a Sorcer x4 on my main audio service panel. Remember, these just plug into an unused outlet; they are totally passive.

Next, I installed a (3) Wizardís, one under each of my Burmester 911 MKIII Amps.

Then about an hour ago, I decided to turn on the system and listen for changes.

I can honestly tell everyone, this is not Dramatic; it is absolutely Profound! I could not believe my ears; it sounded as if I upgraded my Aidaís!

Let me tell you what I just experienced; first, the system has substantially greater dynamics, across the entire audible spectrum.

The sound stage is even wider, deeper, and much more holographic. The Bass has improved in a major way, as if I more than doubled the power of my amps. I also noticed that I am achieving the same SPL with lower gain settings on my preamp. Itís like putting your entire system on Steroids, quite remarkable when you consider this is totally passive.

If this all sounds like a late night Audio TV commercial, I apologize because this is a breath taking transformation.

I started streaming plain Redbook CDís that I still canít get over; these units are a real game changer!

Whether you buy one direct from the manufacturer at retail, or as a Subscriber get one from me at a discount, you will have a full 30 day in home trial to experience what I just did.

I think the Sorcer x4 on my main service panel is doing the heavy lifting, so to speak. I am sure Bill from ADD-Powr will chime in. I have photos to post, but was too jacked up, and had to get my initial impressions posted.

In somewhat of a comparison; a Furutech Flux-50 NCF Filter treats a single component at $1250 retail. An ADD-Powr Wizard treats an entire system at $1999 retail. Not to mention how much more impactful the Wizard is on your musical enjoyment, and the risk free home trial.

Much more to follow...
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Old 01-24-2020, 10:02 PM
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The sound stage is even wider, deeper, and much more holographic. The Bass has improved in a major way, as if I more than doubled the power of my amps. I also noticed that I am achieving the same SPL with lower gain settings on my preamp.
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This is my experience with the entry level ElectraClears... It is quite a dramatic difference that I just cannot explain.

Can't wait to add wizard(s) or Sorcerer in April! Better stated, as a question for Bill, is it more advantageous to get 2 wizards and place them near the components or 1 sorcerer x4 near the panel?
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Old 01-24-2020, 10:06 PM
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Ivan is not fíin around - it is that good!

And this really makes up for a lot of other things that use power in a system.

Well worth adding any level of this brand!
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With all due respect I'd like to make a technical point of clarification about these devices. They're not passive... it's a unique active circuit which operates in parallel with your power-line so they can't limit current since there's nothing placed in series with your power. The best description of what they do is taken directly from their website:

ADD-Powr technology is Algorithm Digital Defined electrical energy and power. Energy is added to electrical signals and systems. It is unique because it is non-invasive.
  1. The products generate low frequency electromagnetic fields to affect harmonic energy change audio signals and systems.
  2. The products condition AC line voltage through a low frequency pulsing action to effect an increase of the energy delivered to the power supplies of system components by .8 to 2.5 dB or more.
This corresponds to an increase of voltage peaks from 1 to 5%.
Instead of inserting a potentially current limiting component between the incoming AC and your components, a pulsed field now re-references, or biases, the AC signal.
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Old 01-25-2020, 10:29 AM
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With all due respect I'd like to make a technical point of clarification about these devices. They're not passive... it's a unique active circuit which operates in parallel with your power-line so they can't limit current since there's nothing placed in series with your power. The best description of what they do is taken directly from their website:

ADD-Powr technology is Algorithm Digital Defined electrical energy and power. Energy is added to electrical signals and systems. It is unique because it is non-invasive.
  1. The products generate low frequency electromagnetic fields to affect harmonic energy change audio signals and systems.
  2. The products condition AC line voltage through a low frequency pulsing action to effect an increase of the energy delivered to the power supplies of system components by .8 to 2.5 dB or more.
This corresponds to an increase of voltage peaks from 1 to 5%.
Instead of inserting a potentially current limiting component between the incoming AC and your components, a pulsed field now re-references, or biases, the AC signal.
Thanks Bill. Was hoping you could help with a question above - is it more advantageous to get 2 wizards and place them near the components or 1 sorcerer x4 near the panel?

thank you again.
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Old 01-25-2020, 11:02 AM
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Thanks Bill. Was hoping you could help with a question above - is it more advantageous to get 2 wizards and place them near the components or 1 sorcerer x4 near the panel?

thank you again.
I'm not sure... I'd suggest following up with Ivan or the company directly for the answer to that question! (I'm not that Bill!)
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Old 01-25-2020, 11:53 AM
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Thanks Bill. Was hoping you could help with a question above - is it more advantageous to get 2 wizards and place them near the components or 1 sorcerer x4 near the panel?



thank you again.


My thought is, and itís just that, is to just score the Sorcer, why?

Simply you can try it in both places, and believe in either case you will gain performance. Side benefit is you only need one power cable, and they do make a difference, but not mandatory.

My hunch is the closer the system is to the panel, the better the benefit.

Donít be surprised if you realize results in other areas as these signals seem to travel and I donít believe any home lives in is big enough to reduce the benefit - but thatís my opinion.
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I'm not sure... I'd suggest following up with Ivan or the company directly for the answer to that question! (I'm not that Bill!)
LOL - thank you and sorry!

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My thought is, and it’s just that, is to just score the Sorcer, why?

Simply you can try it in both places, and believe in either case you will gain performance. Side benefit is you only need one power cable, and they do make a difference, but not mandatory.

My hunch is the closer the system is to the panel, the better the benefit.

Don’t be surprised if you realize results in other areas as these signals seem to travel and I don’t believe any home lives in is big enough to reduce the benefit - but that’s my opinion.
Thank you. I should mention that the components are powered by 2 separate and dedicated 20A runs from the panel.
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With all due respect I'd like to make a technical point of clarification about these devices. They're not passive... it's a unique active circuit which operates in parallel with your power-line so they can't limit current since there's nothing placed in series with your power. The best description of what they do is taken directly from their website:

[I]ADD-Powr technology is Algorithm Digital Defined electrical energy and power. Energy is added to electrical signals and systems. It is unique because it is non-invasive.
[LIST=1][*]The products generate low frequency electromagnetic fields to affect harmonic energy change audio signals and systems.
So...I read their website, and I did not find that it explained anything that is meaningful to actually understanding what it is doing.

So, I'm curious what the phrase: "...to affect harmonic energy change audio signals and systems" actually means.

ALL electric and/or audio signals are electromagnetic waves/fields. Just read Dollard, Steinmetz, or Heaviside...all electrical energy is the result from the interaction of dielectricity and magnetism.

So, how is this product different, and in what way? What is the transfer function and what is the functional response it is mediating? It's not explaining what the transfer function is, and what the functional response is. If it mediates some sort of physics-based functional response, it can be described by a transfer function. I don't get any of that information from the web page, so it reads like marketing-speak to me.
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Old 01-25-2020, 11:12 PM
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So...I read their website, and I did not find that it explained anything that is meaningful to actually understanding what it is doing.

So, I'm curious what the phrase: "...to affect harmonic energy change audio signals and systems" actually means.

ALL electric and/or audio signals are electromagnetic waves/fields. Just read Dollard, Steinmetz, or Heaviside...all electrical energy is the result from the interaction of dielectricity and magnetism.

So, how is this product different, and in what way? What is the transfer function and what is the functional response it is mediating? It's not explaining what the transfer function is, and what the functional response is. If it mediates some sort of physics-based functional response, it can be described by a transfer function. I don't get any of that information from the web page, so it reads like marketing-speak to me.
Regardless, all you have to do is experience one in your system “risk free” to become a True Believer.

That’s what I did.
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