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Old 02-05-2014, 11:31 AM
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If it's a luck of the draw at KRELL, I advise anyone to spend his hard earned money elsewhere.. Accuphase for instance. They know what they are doing.

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Old 02-05-2014, 12:18 PM
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Has Mr. Dagostino been forced out?
Is that a fact?
Check out this 2009 published report from hometheaterreview.com

What Happened At Krell and Why The D'agostino Family Is Out

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Krell is one of the most respected and lofty brands in high end audio history. This summer - much like many specialty AV companies who are looking to be able to produce, design and license the latest and greatest new technologies in AV - Krell looked to new investors by the name of KP Partners. The D'agostino family wouldn't be the first and certainly not the last who needed short term funds, more high-level management and other external help in order to grow; yet something went very wrong with the relationship very quickly.

Krell was founded by Dan D'agostino and his now ex-wife and Krell President, Rondi, 29 years ago. Dan's oldest son, Bret D'agostino, up until the sweeping changes, was one of Krell's technical gurus. But only months after bringing in new partners and right about the time of the CEDIA tradeshow in early September 2009 - the entire D'agostino family was out at Krell. Literally, clean out your desks and goodbye.

What exactly happened that turned the deal so acrimonious so quickly is unclear. However, the new investment group has made a power play to gain control of the company, with its founders being escorted to the door of the company they created nearly three decades ago. The details of this dispute are now the basis of a lawsuit filed by the D'agostinos against the new partners in hopes of wrestling control of the company back. Even as Dan and Rondi sit on the board, have the majority of stock, yet somehow have lost voting control that governs the direction of the company.
Here is the new guy in charge, Bill McKiegan, Krell Industries, President:

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Old 02-05-2014, 12:46 PM
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The fans receive feedback several ways which enable them to turn down quickly even if the bias is temporarily up higher. I was convinced that
Krell took the issue of noise seriously.
I'm not at all sure what this means?

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If you are of the mindset to devise a specific scenario where fan noise can be heard, you will find it.
Honestly, I really like the folks at Krell, but if they said that, then I think they're just trying to side step the issue of the fan. In a home theater setting, the amp gets pushed hard during an action sequence, and then the fan runs for most of the quiet scene that follows. This isn't a mindset, it's been my experience.

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Old 02-05-2014, 01:08 PM
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Krell like every other business had to shift gears and focus on marketing and paying the bills. The EVO line was not made in china when I purchased them and I was assured of that but I was in on the ground floor. Krell EVO stuff is a cost no object, exact material reproducing, speaker manhandling, current delivering, world class bass delivering but somehow with finesse type of equipment. It puts out what you put in cleanly and forcefully. BUT YOU WILL PAY. Problem is that the market for that type of stuff is diminishing with the times.... I am guessing.

as far as the new amps "sounding" better than the EVO stuff. I was under the impression an amp wasn't supposed to sound like anything
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:24 PM
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Yes the evolution serie's is top!
If a audio company comes out with new amplifiers.
Is it normal that the new amps sound better than the previous series.
Or am I wrong?
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:11 PM
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Just for my curiosity...EVO series are being replaced by class A amp? Are they really that good compare to EVO?
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thezaks, it means that temperature and the bias setting aren't the only parameters looked at in determining the fan speed. They also look
at the input signal. I'm simply reporting what I was told in person at Krell.
You can choose to believe or not. At the end of the day nothing they do
may satisfy some people who are dead set against a fan system, no matter how well it is designed.

I'm not saying you fall in this category, but I just find it amazing how some people want to shoot the new iBias product down without even hearing it.
Our hobby has a surplus of this ridiculously biased mentality and it is one reason that the hobby struggles to expand beyond the existing base.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:20 PM
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Yes the evolution serie's is top!
If a audio company comes out with new amplifiers.
Is it normal that the new amps sound better than the previous series.
Or am I wrong?
The processor or dac own the signal. They have a voice. An amp is supposed to amplify the signal. Anything it ads is a form of distortion. Am amp is not supposed to sound like anything. So hope the new stuff amplifies as well
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:59 PM
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The processor or dac own the signal. They have a voice. An amp is supposed to amplify the signal. Anything it ads is a form of distortion. Am amp is not supposed to sound like anything. So hope the new stuff amplifies as well
Krell never designed their stuff for low distortion. It was always about musicality.

Their approach isn't about High Fidelity. Is about what sounds good. It has tremendous distortion. But it sounds powerful to many. If you match them right, you could achieve a better high fidelity sound. We turn to speaker matching and often find so many problems with them in the first place, but ignore them, and base our impressions on the tonality of things, the spacious ness of sound. We imagine the realism of it, without really knowing what it truly is.

So in reality, there's are loads of psychological factors buried deep in our brain. iBias and fans are not the best way to go.

How much is the amp? How much is that fan? Why not dip the transformer into tar? I bet the damping factor is unreal too.

It's a fan cooking system for crying out loud. In a class A!

You want something cool, use a class A/B, or Class H, and not marketing Class A iBias as seemingly efficient as Class A/B. Build a better Class A/B design. How about that.

When are the new amps available?

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Old 02-06-2014, 02:41 AM
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As far as I know, the whole iBias amplifiers series will be available from mid-March.
I assume that the new amps sound better than the evolution series.
If the Ibias amps sound the same as the Evolution series, this is also good because they cost "less".
If the Ibias amps sound less than the evolution series,then that is unfortunate for everyone.Especially for anyone who love good sound.
But I assume the Ibias amps,will sound better than evoulution series
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