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Old 06-12-2015, 01:24 AM
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Surge suppresor is installed at the panel and I use Square D Whole House Surge Protective Device
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Old 11-23-2015, 12:43 PM
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Like many before me, I have 3 dedicated CKTs. Two 15 amp & one 20 amp CKT. The 20 amp CKT provides power via a PS Audio outlet to a Shunyata Hydra for the amps. Very good results. Then one CKT goes to a PS Audio outlet to a voltage stabilizer and AC line conditioner that powers the processor and all the front end equipment. The last CKT goes to a PS Audio outlet and an AC line conditioner and powers the subwoofer and smart lighting system. When I originally set it up, the amps were in the line conditioner. The stabilizer could keep up with the amps once powered up. However, their start up current gave me issues which is why I ended up separating them. I had the amps plugged into the wall. A surge caused 2 of my Hi-Fi Tuning silver supreme fuses to get smoked. That's how I ended up with the Hydra. I am very happy with the performance of the Hydra. To that I will ad one caveat. The Hydra required a 20 A EIC. I used one of those adaptors. The sound went all lean and glassy. I sent the mains line back to the OEM and had them install a Wattgate 20 A EIC and as stupid as that sounds, brought the base back.
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:19 PM
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Both Krells, The LPS and the Cantata are plugged into my Synergistic Research Powercell 10 with very good results. This is the only power conditioner that I know of that is not current limiting.


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Old 11-23-2015, 03:49 PM
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Old 12-06-2015, 01:15 PM
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Everything connected to SIN Audio PSD 6. IMO beats any conditioner, at any price. Music just flows freely. Completely silent black background. Endless unconstrained dynamics. Live music is the best reference. If you have not tried a passive approach, I recommend it to every audiophile...and SIN Audio PSD is something very special.
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Old 12-07-2015, 12:42 AM
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I go straight to the wall with a pair of Shunyata Sigma HCs (dual mono amp). The cables employ passive conditioning with no current limiting.
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:52 AM
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It's common for users here to suggest that many power conditioners limit current. While I don't doubt that some power conditioners can have a negative effect on sound, I'm dubious that the cause is necessarily the device limiting current into an amplifier. I base this on actually measuring current with and without a power conditioner, using the same amplifier and musical test signal.

In my system, I have two pairs of Tice Power Blocks and Titans. There is a pair of each for each of my two amplifiers - I have a biamplified system - and each pair is on its own dedicated, derated 20 amp line. These power conditioners do not limit current. Yes, they can alter the sound of a system and yes, that difference can change depending on the installation. But whatever difference is noted, I'm convinced it isn't caused by current limiting.

There are many variables involved when we consider power conditioning, and the quality of a utility's power and a home's wiring are among them. In my experience, it's likely that whatever problem a system has with electrical power is rooted in these two variables. I'm unconvinced that "current limiting" by a properly-sized power conditioner is a factor.
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Old 12-07-2015, 11:25 AM
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I do not know if every active power conditioner is limiting or if none of them are. I just know that my amp blew the fuse in my active conditioner regularly upon amp power up. It may have been simply inrush current (it's a big amp). I was not staking out a position on active conditioners or other brands, just that Shunyata Sigma is passive conditioning and is not itself current limiting.
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Old 12-07-2015, 12:28 PM
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I do not know if every active power conditioner is limiting or if none of them are. I just know that my amp blew the fuse in my active conditioner regularly upon amp power up. It may have been simply inrush current (it's a big amp) ...
Chessman, I wasn't responding specifically to you. But I'm interested in your experience just the same. If your conditioner's fuse blew on amp power-up, it obviously couldn't provide sufficient current for your amp! Case closed!

In my system, each Power Block/Titan pair turn on simultaneously along with the associated amplifier by means of a single switch. It has never blown a fuse or tripped a breaker, although every light in the house momentarily dims.
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Old 12-07-2015, 01:00 PM
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All my gear is connected to an Accuphase PS-1220. When watching TV you can even see how the screen presentation is improved by the PS.
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