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Old 02-24-2022, 10:00 AM
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Im enjoying since a few months a pair of 802 D3, quite pleased with the general results.
One thing that keeps bothering me is that I find that the singers voices are too low, not at standing height, on the soundstage.

I can understand that a singer pianist’s voice would be roughly at the same height as me seating but all the voices are only slightly above my head, so not accurately representing a singer standing up.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?
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Old 02-24-2022, 12:44 PM
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Tip your speakers back by adjusting the spikes. Small increments.
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Old 02-25-2022, 02:09 AM
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In my experience power cables have big impact on this issue. Also Denafrips BIC 500 had a very positive impact on singers placemnent. Experiment in this direction if you can. Tipping the speakers did not get me overall positive results, you get something but loose something else.
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Hello Everybody,

Im enjoying since a few months a pair of 802 D3, quite pleased with the general results.
One thing that keeps bothering me is that I find that the singers voices are too low, not at standing height, on the soundstage.

I can understand that a singer pianist’s voice would be roughly at the same height as me seating but all the voices are only slightly above my head, so not accurately representing a singer standing up.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?
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Old 02-25-2022, 06:56 AM
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Both of the other replies are spot on, but please post a picture of your system. Please include your seating position/chair as well.

How far apart are your speakers? How far off the wall are they? I know when I changed DACs my sound stage took off into the stratosphere …
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In my experience power cables have big impact on this issue. Also Denafrips BIC 500 had a very positive impact on singers placemnent. Experiment in this direction if you can. Tipping the speakers did not get me overall positive results, you get something but loose something else.
I agree that power cords made a significant difference with my 802D2s. And later I placed on StillPoints.
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Both of the other replies are spot on, but please post a picture of your system. Please include your seating position/chair as well.

How far apart are your speakers? How far off the wall are they? I know when I changed DACs my sound stage took off into the stratosphere …

Measured from tweeters, speakers are 1,25M from front wall, 1,27 from side walls, 2,18M apart, seating position 3,2M from line joining tweeters.

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Try the position closer to equilateral triangle. It will also create more immersive soundstage.
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Many times I find an issue with singers too tall and making the stage feel Empty for the first 6 feet vertically. Yours is probably a better problem to have.

This is likely secondary to your ceiling.
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Try the position closer to equilateral triangle. It will also create more immersive soundstage.
Will try and report
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Many times I find an issue with singers too tall and making the stage feel Empty for the first 6 feet vertically. Yours is probably a better problem to have.

This is likely secondary to your ceiling.
My Ceiling height is 3,3 M
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