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Old 02-09-2021, 12:09 AM
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Default Bryston bdp-3 Sweet Streamer!

I must first say thank you Bryston for actually designing a product that
actually acknowledges the use of the Squeeze Server application. Damn...
It does sound good, very detailed and open in it's presentation. A little
bright for my taste maybe with more break-in time it will tone down. Otherwise it was the easiest install ever! Open box.... connect, power up.... select as a Squeezelite player...... POOF music!! I didn't have to change my infra structure!

Thanks

Here is my story on how I got here.....

It has been a frustrating 8 months trying to integrate my music library
as-is! In 2008 I made the decision to master my LP collection into 96Khz
aiff files uncompressed. My DIY streamer finally died after 10+yrs of
faithful service. I thought by now the audio industry would have made something better and wasn't USB solution only.

I tried Lumin....... It failed because it doesn't recognize uncompressed over 44.1 plus it didn't sound all that good!! DUMB. Then tried a Naim X2 ND5 that unit worked fine for TWO MONTHS. The play back was very detailed and warm in its presentation. Until a forced FIRMWARE update changed on how upnp functions with Squeeeze Server. Naim tech support was useless. I ask if I could just roll back their firmware to the prior release? NO! was their response...... But they countered with...... You can switch to Roon? What!? Why would I pay a monthly fee for the same features I've been using for years for FREE!? Okay..... You can buy our 3TB server. WHAT!? Why must I change from my server to your server product? Your Company reduced the unit functionality not me!!! Anyway it is unable to house my 5.7TB collection! Call ended with a promise to look into my concern. Yeah I can take the HINT!

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Old 02-09-2021, 12:26 AM
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Ken... very glad to know you are enjoying your new BDP-3
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Old 02-09-2021, 11:00 AM
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I must first say thank you Bryston ... It does sound good, very detailed and open in it's presentation. A little
bright for my taste maybe with more break-in time it will tone down. Otherwise it was the easiest install ever! ...
I agree with you about the BDP-3 - it's a fantastic streamer. I bought mine after losing patience with all of the issues I was having with my Aurender and my only regret is that I didn't dump the Aurender sooner. The Bryston is simply stable - solid as a rock! - and sounds great.

I don't find the BDP-3 to be bright, however. I am using a Wireworld cable on the USB out to a Bryston BDA-3, so perhaps that makes a difference. It sounds so good connected this way that I haven't bothered to experiment with other connection options.

The one complaint I've heard about the BDP-3 is about the Manic Moose interface. Let's face it: It isn't the most elegant, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for you. Improvements are supposedly in the pipeline. Those who want something better now should consider getting Rigelian, which is very inexpensive and works like a charm. It's only for i-devices, however.
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Old 02-09-2021, 12:43 PM
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The one complaint I've heard about the BDA-3 is about the Manic Moose interface. Let's face it: It isn't the most elegant, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for you. Improvements are supposedly in the pipeline. Those who want something better now should consider getting Rigelian, which is very inexpensive and works like a charm. It's only for i-devices, however.
Designing an interface is hard and time consuming development process. Their are options for streamers. The ones listed below are highly rated for their interface design

1.) iPeng (IOS only) oldie but a goodie.... my default for the iPad mini
2.) Sqeezepad (IOS only) it's okay....
3.) Orange Squeeze (Android only) Not sure..... but not available any more in the Google store. Available from website and you'll have to do a manual install. I use Orange Squeeze as my default player for my Android devices!
4.) Sqeezeplayer (Android only) again not available in store..... can be found on the internet.

I'll take a look at Rigelian. Never heard of them before.

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The one complaint I've heard about the BDA-3 is about the Manic Moose interface. Let's face it: It isn't the most elegant, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for you. Improvements are supposedly in the pipeline. Those who want something better now should consider getting Rigelian, which is very inexpensive and works like a charm. It's only for i-devices, however.
I am sure you meant BDP-3 rather than BDA-3. But, I am curious, what is it about the Manic Moose interface that folks don't like? I for one just use Manic Moose for music selection. I don't look at the interface otherwise as I am trying to listen to the music. So, again, I am trying to find out what is is about Manic Moose that folks do not like?
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I am sure you meant BDP-3 rather than BDA-3. But, I am curious, what is it about the Manic Moose interface that folks don't like? I for one just use Manic Moose for music selection. I don't look at the interface otherwise as I am trying to listen to the music. So, again, I am trying to find out what is is about Manic Moose that folks do not like?
Yes, I did mean BDP-3 and not BDA-3. Good catch, thank you! I edited the post to make the correction.

The Manic Moose interface just isn't as slick as some of the competition's software, such as Aurender. For example, the Qobuz functionality is extremely limited by comparison to Aurender's Conductor app, but the trade-off is more than worth it to me.
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Yes, I did mean BDP-3 and not BDA-3. Good catch, thank you! I edited the post to make the correction.

The Manic Moose interface just isn't as slick as some of the competition's software, such as Aurender. For example, the Qobuz functionality is extremely limited by comparison to Aurender's Conductor app, but the trade-off is more than worth it to me.
Well, just ask yourself which is more important, a slick interface or sound quality. I read where either you or someone else had an Aurender, but traded it for the BDP-3. Remember, with the BDP-3, you have a fully functional interface and pristine sound quality. The sound quality and ease of use of the interface is the most important priority. A "slick" interface will increase the cost of this product when, in fact, the interface is unimportant when one considers the sound quality.

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Well, just ask yourself which is more important, a slick interface or sound quality. I read where either you or someone else had an Aurender, but traded it for the BDP-3. Remember, with the BDP-3, you have a fully functional interface and pristine sound quality ...
I did have an Aurender and dumped it at a loss when I bought the Bryston. I am much, much happier with the BDP-3 and have been from the day I first installed it. It's been absolutely stable, whereas the Aurender was a nuisance and customer support was indifferent. And I'm being kind.
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Well, just ask yourself which is more important, a slick interface or sound quality. I read where either you or someone else had an Aurender, but traded it for the BDP-3. Remember, with the BDP-3, you have a fully functional interface and pristine sound quality. The sound quality and ease of use of the interface is the most important priority. A "slick" interface will increase the cost of this product when, in fact, the interface is unimportant when one considers the sound quality.

I think “slick interface” is oversimplifying the issue. For starters we need an interface that doesn’t require opening a computer with large screen to browse my collection in the tiny bottom right corner of a web page that keeps losing its place while fighting multiple scroll bars.

Once you are used to a native app like Tidal or Spotify (regardless if you are a desktop or mobile user) the Bryston way seems very cumbersome. There are programming interfaces like Tidal Connect and Spotify Connect that they should look into. This is what the leading competitors use.

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Yes, I did mean BDP-3 and not BDA-3. Good catch, thank you! I edited the post to make the correction.

The Manic Moose interface just isn't as slick as some of the competition's software, such as Aurender. For example, the Qobuz functionality is extremely limited by comparison to Aurender's Conductor app, but the trade-off is more than worth it to me.
1.) Want the slick interface try iPeng for IOS.
http://penguinlovesmusic.de/

2.) Want the slick inteface try OrangeSqueeze for Android.

The only thing I don't know is if other the hardware streamer's lock you in,
and not allow access. I do know Lumin and Naim allowed access!
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