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Old 07-26-2021, 08:14 PM
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Ok, so the point on your sugestion was, on one hand to provide a better current maximiser to the PSA10 through the Sigma CX, and in the other hand to provide newer NR technology (Sigma NR v1 and Alpha NR v2) to the big boys, GS150 and Ref6. Right?

Although still settling down Since yersterday,, I am pleased with the Venom NR V12 taking the place of the old Alpha Digital I used to have in the Hypsos/Roon Nucleus.

And if I am lucky to manage and put the Alpha NR V2 (C15) on the GS150 Amp (C19),
I wonder if another (less expensive...) Venom V12 could perform better then the old Alpha Digital, on the Wadia?
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Old 07-27-2021, 12:06 PM
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Ok, so the point on your sugestion was, on one hand to provide a better current maximiser to the PSA10 through the Sigma CX, and in the other hand to provide newer NR technology (Sigma NR v1 and Alpha NR v2) to the big boys, GS150 and Ref6. Right?

Although still settling down Since yersterday,, I am pleased with the Venom NR V12 taking the place of the old Alpha Digital I used to have in the Hypsos/Roon Nucleus.

And if I am lucky to manage and put the Alpha NR V2 (C15) on the GS150 Amp (C19),
I wonder if another (less expensive...) Venom V12 could perform better then the old Alpha Digital, on the Wadia?
Try it and see...it's always worth doing the experiment.
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Old 07-28-2021, 10:57 PM
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I wonder if another (less expensive...) Venom V12 could perform better then the old Alpha Digital, on the Wadia?
The Venom V12 delivers a heck of a bang for the buck, but it was easily trounced by an Alpha HC both with my DAC and in the power block that feeds my AV system. The Alpha Digital was just under the Alpha HC in that lineup so the V12 should be more competitive with it. But I think that ΞTRON technology in those Alphas really did work some wonders as far as reducing noise.
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Old 07-29-2021, 07:12 PM
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The Venom V12 delivers a heck of a bang for the buck, but it was easily trounced by an Alpha HC both with my DAC and in the power block that feeds my AV system. The Alpha Digital was just under the Alpha HC in that lineup so the V12 should be more competitive with it. But I think that ΞTRON technology in those Alphas really did work some wonders as far as reducing noise.
Thank you Kenny. Really apreciate your comment, based on your experience.

I presume you have seen my Shunyata PC loom on the page before this, crossing several generations, from the new NR v2, NR v1, to the ΞTRON that you seem to know very well (Alpha HC was my fav from that time, then the Alpha Digital that was always with my Wadia before being swaped by the Alpha NR v2).

Every time I upgrade my system, more resolution, like it was the case with the recent arrival of the WA DAW and TA Opus, I have to spend some time cleaning one more level of (afterwards exposed) noise. Some effort spent on it.

Indeed, after reading lots of nice recomendations here, Gabriel included, on the Venon NR12 blocking all kinds of noise, I got one and was very pleased with it on my Hypsos/Nucleus/Roon. And being a much more recent technology I admit it also surpasses the higher grade in line (at its time...) Alpha HC and Alpha Digital...

In the near future I plan to evaluate an Everest PD which I think will bring more sinergy with all the 7 Shunyata PCs, so as aquiring a Sigma XC for it. But till the budget allows me such steps, I'm rolling the PCs to maximize performance with what I have.

I got today some Shunyata adapters C15/C19 and vice versa. So I will try the Alpha HC (C19) on the PS Audio 10 that feed all my system, and the then the Sigma NR v1 (C15) on the GS150 Amp (C19).
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Old 07-29-2021, 10:08 PM
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Indeed, after reading lots of nice recomendations here, Gabriel included, on the Venon NR12 blocking all kinds of noise, I got one and was very pleased with it on my Hypsos/Nucleus/Roon. And being a much more recent technology I admit it also surpasses the higher grade in line (at its time...) Alpha HC and Alpha Digital...
I imagine there is some variability based on the component. A server dumps out noise that can be harmful to other components so the better/newer filter having the advantage.

My sense was that the Alpha HC was a quieter cable in itself than the Venom NR12. A Delta NR v2 was even quieter. By that I mean that it seemed as if the quieter cords introduced less grain into the signal. What was astonishing was how obvious this was to the eye with my 65” LG OLED. What I saw mirrored what I heard in my two channel system. Colors were more saturated with less grain. A lot less grain relative to the Venom NR12. It bummed me out as I didn’t want to spend any more than what I paid foe the Venom NR12, but after seeing the degradation to the picture, I had to.

I’m not sure the kind of noise I heard would impact a server as much. I will say though that a Delta NR v2 was a significant upgrade over the Alpha HC on my Antipodes server. It was actually stunning to me that a power cord brought that level of improvement to a server.

I ended up selling one of my Venom NR12s with the other powering the Marantz receiver in my AV system. A Delta NR v1 ended up replacing the Alpha HC powering the power block in my AV system as I preferred the thinner cord. On my main system, each of the power cords are Delta v2 except on my two network switches where I use the excellent Venom V14 Digital.
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Old 07-30-2021, 07:45 PM
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My sense was that the Alpha HC was a quieter cable in itself than the Venom NR12. A Delta NR v2 was even quieter.
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On my main system, each of the power cords are Delta v2 except on my two network switches where I use the excellent Venom V14 Digital.
Thanks again for your relevant comments, Kenny.

I absolutely understand your findings about the Alpha HC, and even the Digital, quietness, cables that I know so well... and I will share my conclusions after the swapping I plan to do with them, and probably try to grabe and test a Delta NR v2 against the Venon 12 NR as you noticed.

Btw, what are the 2 switches/setup you mentioned?
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Old 07-30-2021, 11:23 PM
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What’s the break in period for these new Sigma NR V2s? I just received a half dozen of the Sigma NRV2s.

Installed them and don’t have a great update yet..except they are definitely quieter and allow for more details to be retrieved within the.music. I have about 4 hours of combined warm up and music play so far. Tomorrow I plan on getting another 4-6 hours in.

(I felt a few times during music playback that they had some great resolution, but at other times, they sounded a little veiled like when tubes warm up and then they start to open up. It’s not a dramatic night and day difference yet…but hoping with time, that they will show their true selves.

The cables replaced were; custom made Neotech pure silver 10 gauge power cables with Neotech copper plugs; custom made Tempo Electric pur silver 10 gauge power cord with carbon fiber connectors; Shunyata Anaconda and black mamba power cords. Looking forward to more positive changes in the next few days.
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Even with the KPIP process, Shunyata cables will require additional break in time. I play mine a minimum of 200 hours, before I sit down to do any critical listening.
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Thank you. I figured I need to get some good hours of use before I can properly formulate a good listening impression. I definitely can tell that background noise is reduced, so that’s a start.
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Btw, what are the 2 switches/setup you mentioned?
I guess my opticalModule isn’t really a switch as it’s a fiber media converter. But it’s powered by an inexpensive Chinese linear power supply with the power cord being a Venom V14D. Downstream from that is an EtherRegen powered by a Farad Super3. The power cord is also a V14D. I really like that cord with these all-digital devices.
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