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Old 02-01-2021, 09:55 PM
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I think new owner is former sales director/manger 2015-2017 .There is you tube interview
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Also subsidiary companies pay management fees to the parent for any services provided by the parent, such as engineering, payroll, accounting, etc., and of course have to pay dividends to the parent using their cash.


AKA ‘Corporate Overhead’ on their P&L.

I agree, they likely have lower overall costs than within the ‘Sounds’ organizational structure. As others have hinted at, the question going forward is around how they retain/attract talent for design and engineering.

(This is not unlike Washington DC government overheads)

But it may only take one or two really sharp technical folks and clever marketing for then to thrive.
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I still cannot afford any of their stuff!
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I agree that the new Reference 160M and 160S amps with the ghost meters are a major step in the right direction. But remember that those designs were concocted under the McIntosh Group umbrella and not under the direction of the former ARC insider. If they can do the same to the rest of the line without driving prices farther through the roof, they'll really have something. I also hope to see some solid state offerings in the near future with similar aesthetics.
The Mac Group, nee Fine Sounds Group, nee Quadrivio have owned ARC since 2008. How management fit ARC "under the umbrella" changed greatly over those years.
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I began with ARC in 1979 with a D52B and SP6B. Through the years they made audio gear that became benchmarks and many more that have passed unnoticed into history. But they were all constructed to the highest standards and could expect to enjoy a long service life with the knowledge that a repair was only a phone call to Leonard away. The old industrial design may not have been cosmetically desirable, but form followed function, and that had a deeper attraction IMO. I do believe the new series of components sounds excellent or I would not have purchased any of them; however, their construction quality is not at the same level as previous gear, possibly because form took precedence over function. As a corollary, as my eye wanders over the Sasha DAW the quality of components and attention to detail is of the highest order. In my opinion ARC has a lot of fundamental questions to ask and answer going forward.
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The Mac Group, nee Fine Sounds Group, nee Quadrivio have owned ARC since 2008. How management fit ARC "under the umbrella" changed greatly over those years.
Not sure what that has to do with what I said. I'm not bashing ARC and I really want this American made audio company to succeed. I just see some potential road blocks. Many on here think that ARC's overall costs will go down now that they are shed of a corporate umbrella. I doubt that very much. I think they'll fall under the same position as the many small volume "boutique" brands that are out there now. Their costs will most likely go up for raw materials and components due to their reduced buying volumes and reduced price leverage. $20k + tube amplifiers have a comparatively small market in the audio world.
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I began with ARC in 1979 with a D52B and SP6B. Through the years they made audio gear that became benchmarks and many more that have passed unnoticed into history. But they were all constructed to the highest standards and could expect to enjoy a long service life with the knowledge that a repair was only a phone call to Leonard away. The old industrial design may not have been cosmetically desirable, but form followed function, and that had a deeper attraction IMO. I do believe the new series of components sounds excellent or I would not have purchased any of them; however, their construction quality is not at the same level as previous gear, possibly because form took precedence over function. As a corollary, as my eye wanders over the Sasha DAW the quality of components and attention to detail is of the highest order. In my opinion ARC has a lot of fundamental questions to ask and answer going forward.
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I still cannot afford any of their stuff!
It's coming.
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I actually liked their older industrial designs better (e.g., the Reference 75SE).
Me too! I dislike the current design language and lower build quality.
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I began with ARC in 1979 with a D52B and SP6B. Through the years they made audio gear that became benchmarks and many more that have passed unnoticed into history. But they were all constructed to the highest standards and could expect to enjoy a long service life with the knowledge that a repair was only a phone call to Leonard away. The old industrial design may not have been cosmetically desirable, but form followed function, and that had a deeper attraction IMO. I do believe the new series of components sounds excellent or I would not have purchased any of them; however, their construction quality is not at the same level as previous gear, possibly because form took precedence over function. As a corollary, as my eye wanders over the Sasha DAW the quality of components and attention to detail is of the highest order. In my opinion ARC has a lot of fundamental questions to ask and answer going forward.
Couldn't have said it better myself, even if I tried.
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