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Hello, all.
1st time poster but long time (21 years), and current (2 pairs CLSes), Martin Logan owner. I also run a Sanders 10c setup as well which I just got a few weeks ago. Why ESL for me? They do things (like reproduce plucked instruments and the human voice) like no other speaker design can and that is the type and style of music that seals the deal for me. As an aside, I have read over this Martin Logan forum and can't help but wonder why all of the Maggie posts in the ML forum? Especially when there is a Maggie sub forum. Last edited by Pneumonic; 07-16-2013 at 12:37 PM. |
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As another mentioned the PMC IB2 is just phenomenal, and somewhat under rated or under the radar. At the moment I am enjoying 802Di's and find I can listen to all types of music and enjoy. But that second system with CLS IIz's and some serious valves for my critical listening to jazz, female vocal and chamber music, still is in the back of my mind. If I can find a pair. I have "temporarily" changed camps, but may find my way back to panels one day. If a great pair of CLS II's become available. |
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ESL's are delicate, effortless and aurally transparent...
Hi to all....I am a long time panel-type guy, but a first time poster.
My first "real" system speakers were ESS Heil AMT-3 ("RockMonitors"), which were purchased in the early '70's. Not strictly a panel, these were a hybrid design with each floor stander containing 2-10" drivers, a 5" (or perhaps 6" mid-range driver) with the dipolar radiating AMT (Air Motion Transformer) mounted on top. I replaced the Heil's with Apogee Stages. The Stages were replaced by Martin Logan reQuests. The reQuests were replaced about 11-years ago with Soundlab M1's and later (2013), with Soundlab M1PX's with the upgraded "PX" panel, optional Hot Rod Back Plate, and the recently released & optional Consummate Toroidal Transformer. Tomorrow, I plan on placing an order for Martin Logan’s which will be used in the H/T room. The Logan’s will be replacing Energy Veritas 2.3 bookshelf's. I will be using a pair of M/L Theos for (Front) Left and Right; a Stage X Center, and Electromotion ESL's as sides. Rears will remain Energy surrounds that can be switched between dipolar or bipolar outputs. After performing an audition of the Electromotion ESL's, I'm excited about returning to the Martin Logan ESL fold, as least in the H/T room. I owned the Soundlab M1’s for approximately 11-years. Considering an upgrade, or a different speaker for the 2-channel room, my son and I attended the 2012 RMAF. We listened to all the speakers present at the show. However, we kept gravitating back to open baffles, panels, horns, and ESL speakers. We found that these sorts of speakers provide an effortless output that has 100% appeal, at least for our ears. Hence, I ordered the new M1PX’s mentioned above. So, I’m obviously in agreement with the Soundlab post made earlier in this thread by MtnHam. Once heard and lived-with, the coherence provided by a full-range electrostatic, is quite hard to do without! One may wonder whether the bass output of a stat panel was sufficient sans a sub, but indeed with the Soundlab’s it is. In fact, the accurate, quick bass produced is quite a treat. There’s nothing like hearing a drum head reproduced by a stat. And of course, the mid-range of a stat, has always been hard to beat. The fairly new Soundlab “PX” panel, optional HotRod electronics, and Consummate Transformer changes a once very difficult-to-drive speaker to one that is much more amp friendly. Nevertheless, the Soundlabs as I found my former M/L reQuests to be, marry quite well with tubes. In fact, my first foray into tubes on the reQuests was quit the ear opening experience. Verses the Aragon 4004 MkII amp that I was using, the Audio Research VT100’s that I auditioned, made a high-end amp believer out of me. While I choose to purchase a Mark Levinson 336 ss amp for the reQuests, I later replaced it for use with my Soundlabs, with a Convergent Audio Technology (CAT) pair of JL1 tube monoblocks. Since then, I have upgraded the JL1 CAT’s to JL3 Signature Mono’s. For me, these are the quintessential keeper for life amps. The only exception to that conclusion is their care and feeding. Forty-tubes makes for an expense now and then and their weight of 190lb. each, makes for the help of 3-men and 2-boys to move them. At any rate, I’m happy to find the M/L portion of this friendly forum and look forward to some fun reads and information sharing. Additional 2-Channel Room Equipment (to the Soundlabs & CAT’s): Wavelength Crimson USB DAC; Mac Mini PC; PureMusic Software; iPad Remote; Galibier Quattro Turntable with Tri-Planar Tonearm and Dynavector XV-1s Cartridge; Aria Audio WV5-XL Full-Range Preamp; Synergistic Research Cables Additional H/T Room Equipment: Oppo BP83 Blu-Ray; Marantz AV8801 11-Channel Pre-pro; Aragon 2007 7-Channel amp; Panasonic 65” Plasma |
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