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Old 07-28-2020, 08:16 PM
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Default Pre between the M1 or M21 and M28’s
Anyone running a pre between their M1 or M21 and M28’s.

Currently running direct, but curious if folks have added a pre and how they feel it changed the sound.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:50 PM
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Calling SL1800!!!

He has run the M20 between the M21 and M28 but mainly to enable his Analog rig.

Don’t know about sound.
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Old 07-28-2020, 08:58 PM
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Would be curious about non-Bricasti pre feedback too...
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Old 07-28-2020, 10:22 PM
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I've never gone direct into the M28 amps - I use the Mark Levinson no.52 pre-amp.
I double checked with Bricasti before I bought it given the concern Bricasti had with gear Stereophile used to review and re-review the M28 amps. The manufacturer's comments regarding the reviews explain their concerns.
I'm very happy with the combo!

I'm intrigued by the newest Bricasti M32.

https://www.marklevinson.com/support...r-EMEA-Support
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I just ordered the Bricasti M1SE. I will be using it with McIntosh C52 preamp and McIntosh MC452 amp. I am also using an Aurender N10 and Focal Sopra No2 speakers. I can’t wait. The DAC should be a huge improvement.
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I just ordered the Bricasti M1SE. I will be using it with McIntosh C52 preamp and McIntosh MC452 amp. I am also using an Aurender N10 and Focal Sopra No2 speakers. I can’t wait. The DAC should be a huge improvement.


Congratulations! You’ll love the resolution it will bring. Don’t be afraid to try it as your preamp (if you don’t have analog sources).
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Old 07-29-2020, 05:18 PM
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I am running a M20 preamp between my M21 dac and M28 amps. I did so as I also have a turntable and wanted the other balanced inputs for my phono pre. But I have found I actually prefer the sound of the dac with the preamp in the chain. It just adds a touch of body to the presentation to my ear. I see I need to update my equipment list in my signature.
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I also tried the M21 dac with my Audio Research gear and I felt there was greater clarity WITHOUT the ARC Ref6 in the chain. The Ref6 is a little lacking in clarity and resolution compared to the M21 and or the M20.
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I also tried the M21 dac with my Audio Research gear and I felt there was greater clarity WITHOUT the ARC Ref6 in the chain. The Ref6 is a little lacking in clarity and resolution compared to the M21 and or the M20.

Are you using the Sonore to feed Roon to the M21 instead of the built-in network card?
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Are you using the Sonore to feed Roon to the M21 instead of the built-in network card?


I had the Sonore before the M21 so I can actually use either the Sonore or the Network card. I mostly use the network card.
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