Bricasti M28 Monoblocks

[Bavarian05]

Originally Posted by SHV

FWIW here is Fremer's review...not good... be sure to look at comments for link to manufacture response... IMHO if Fremer didn't like them then the Briscasti are probably fantastic...Fremer is probably the #1 reason that I stopped buying Stereophile several decades ago...I think he was the one that gave fantastic review of the sonic improvement provided by Mpingo wood pucks. Bricasti Design M28 monoblock power amplifier | Stereophile.com Steve

My thoughts exactly. Nothing personal against Fremer, I just don't typically agree with his assessments and tastes. My thinking is also that the M28 is voiced to be best sourced from the M1 and run fully balanced. Fremer did none of that...

[SHV]

"Nothing personal against Fremer, I just don't typically agree with his assessments and tastes."
****
The problem is that there are people who take this sort of review seriously; like me 30 years ago and it can have adverse effects on, especially, a small company. Solid state electronics are well understood physics and measurable. When someone like Fremer talks about improvement with long "burn in", my BS detector goes crazy. If that is happening give me the numbers/waveforms to prove it.

Steve

[Bavarian05]

Originally Posted by Bavarian05

Strongly considering a new pair of these...keep kicking myself that I missed them at AXPONA this year. Anyone aware of any owners on AA? I would love to speak with another owner. I am slightly nervous about not using a preamp. I've recently gone completely digital so other sources are not the concern, but to my ears in the past the preamp has been beneficial. Though according to Brian at Bricasti, they have really addressed this with adjustable gain on the M28s for perfect matching without attenuating much in the digital domain...

Placed my order...now the agonizing wait begins. :-)

[Ritmo]

Congrats! I haven't heard the production version (did hear the prototypes at RMAF 2013) of these amps but they look great! Patience is the key here until they come in.

[Bavarian05]

Originally Posted by Ritmo

Congrats! I haven't heard the production version (did hear the prototypes at RMAF 2013) of these amps but they look great! Patience is the key here until they come in.

Thank you!
Patience is not one of my virtues. :-)

[Bavarian05]

Originally Posted by SHV

"Nothing personal against Fremer, I just don't typically agree with his assessments and tastes." **** The problem is that there are people who take this sort of review seriously; like me 30 years ago and it can have adverse effects on, especially, a small company. Solid state electronics are well understood physics and measurable. When someone like Fremer talks about improvement with long "burn in", my BS detector goes crazy. If that is happening give me the numbers/waveforms to prove it. Steve

My experience has taught me that break in is absolutely real.
Not all devices, but many with high quality capacitors definitely seem to sound uptight and unforgiving at first, can dramatically settle down and offer much improved dynamics after a good 50-100 hours. My previous ARC Reference gear was a prime example. It honestly sounded confused for lack of a better word for the first few hundred hours and eventually came into its own after a good 300-450 hours. It seemed to go through bizarre stages.

Not so sure about transistors, but I do believe in wire dielectric and capacitor run in.
Just my two cents...

[SHV]

Originally Posted by Bavarian05

My experience has taught me that break in is absolutely real.
Not all devices, but many with high quality capacitors definitely seem to sound uptight and unforgiving at first, can dramatically settle down and offer much improved dynamics after a good 50-100 hours. My previous ARC Reference gear was a prime example. It honestly sounded confused for lack of a better word for the first few hundred hours and eventually came into its own after a good 300-450 hours. It seemed to go through bizarre stages.

Not so sure about transistors, but I do believe in wire dielectric and capacitor run in.
Just my two cents...

Don't want to start another version of "wire wars" but it seems like this possible effect is testable. I guess that I'm "jaded" by my previous vocation; "experience", "common sense", etc. were/are often proven to be wrong by "science" which is also a moving target, etc., etc. :>)
(with additional thought, I guess the final arbitrator for this "hobby" is the "psycho-physiology" of the end user rather than physics)

Steve

[GW1800]

Just wanted to say HI. New to this forum. Normally visited the MLO and computer audio forums. Like what I’ve seen so far.

2 Channel: Bricasti M12 DAC & M28's Mono's Black / Aurender N10 Black / Treatments: RPG BAD ARC panels (F, S, Bass Trap & R walls)
Speakers: Martin Logan CLX ART (Dark Cherry) w/30# weights / 2-ML 212's Subs tuned w/PBK
Grounding: Nordost QKore 6 (2-M28, 1-N10, 1-M12, 1-QB8, 1-Router) / 8' Earth Ground Rod / Bricasti M12 w/Acoustic Revive RGC-24
Nordost: 5-QV2 & QK1, 2-QX4 / 12-TC Kones, 27-Sort Fut & 28-LIft / O2/V2 Pwr / O2: SC, Digital & XLR's / H2 Network / V2 RCA Sub's
Misc: Mini iPad / Furutech GTX-DNCF / LED lighting / Aurender AMM / Lovan Rack / SR Quantum Blue Fuses & Black Box
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[jdandy]

GW1800.......Welcome to Audio Aficionado.

[bart]

Yes indeed, welcome GW1800!
AA is a great place to hang out.