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Old 09-11-2013, 06:29 AM
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Caelin... You make mention of the new ΞTRON Alpha Digital cord that you are using with your new Kronos turntable. Please announce what you have in store for our further consideration!
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Caelin... You make mention of the new ΞTRON Alpha Digital cord that you are using with your new Kronos turntable. Please announce what you have in store for our further consideration!
Our research in the past several years has been focused upon power supply noise and how best to intercept and sink it. Some of our recently released products are the result of that research. Products like the Venom Defender and the new Alpha Digital PC cable deal with noise specifically and locally as opposed to generally in a large power conditioner. We are continuing in that line of design philosophy.

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Caelin,

When is the Alpha being released? Where is it placed within the Zitron products? What will be the cost?

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Our research in the past several years has been focused upon power supply noise and how best to intercept and sink it. Some of our recently released products are the result of that research. Products like the Venom Defender and the new Alpha Digital PC cable deal with noise specifically and locally as opposed to generally in a large power conditioner. We are continuing in that line of design philosophy.

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Are you referring to likes of dealing with AC/DC switch-mode power supplies? I currently have my McIntosh MT10 proprietary 12v AC/DC power pack (Clearaudio Germany type) plugged into a Hydra Talos which is shared by other components. Is this a good option or not so? If not, where or what is the best option to plug in that power type of supply?

I'm thinking your new products may pacify computer/ATX power supplies.... Or even external AC/DC switch-mode power packs used by popular 'Silent PCs' & CAPS media servers such as Streacom...

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When is the Alpha being released? Where is it placed within the Zitron products? What will be the cost?

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It was released to dealers this week.. Many dealers already have them on order and they are shipping now.

It is a unique power cable in that it is application specific. It is designed very specifically to deal with power line noise as produced from digital components. We have expanded the complexity of the ZyTron circuit to include the ability to reduce RFI and impulse noise.

So it would be difficult to place it in the hierarchy of cables. Because of its very narrow and very specific design it will significantly out perform conventional cables when used on a digital type component.

NOISE at IEC Standard Power Cord
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NOISE at IEC Alpha Digital PC
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Would this work best on the Devialet over your other products?
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Caelin,

How does this compare with the current Zytron line of cables? For example, I am using the Cobra on my DAC, and digital file player? Is the Alpha sonically better?

Also, since this is an improvement of the Zytron technology, then I would assume we will see it incorporated into the current models at some point.

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Are you referring to likes of dealing with AC/DC switch-mode power supplies? I currently have my McIntosh MT10 proprietary 12v AC/DC power pack (Clearaudio Germany type) plugged into a Hydra Talos which is shared by other components. Is this a good option or not so? If not, where or what is the best option to plug in that power type of supply?

I'm thinking your new products may pacify computer/ATX power supplies.... Or even external AC/DC switch-mode power packs used by popular 'Silent PCs' & CAPS media servers such as Streacom...
Personally, I have been working with a variety of media servers and hi-rez files as many of you have. While the source material is superior, the addition of the media servers (computers, drives, monitors) added significantly to the noise and RFI on the power line. For me, this made the system virtually unlistenable compared to the system using a turntable or a good CDP. We looked for a solution that could isolate these component's RFI and switching noise. There are and have been power cables designed to reduce RFI but these invariably use ferrous materials (ferrite beads and carbon coatings) that reduce DTCD producing a compression of sonic dynamics.

I am not familiar with the MT10 and its power supply. In an ideal world, I prefer to group all the wall-warts, computers and specifically digital devices onto a power distributor and then put the "audio" components on a separate distributor. You don't need two dedicated lines to do this (although that would be best), you can simply plug one distributor into the top outlet in the duplex (US circuits) and the other into the bottom duplex.

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Would this work best on the Devialet over your other products?
No, the Devialet is an integrated amplifier with an integrated DAC.

It requires a very small IEC connector to physically plug into it. We make a PC designed for the Devialet. It is called the ZyTron Z-PC10.

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Caelin,

How does this compare with the current Zytron line of cables? For example, I am using the Cobra on my DAC, and digital file player? Is the Alpha sonically better?

Also, since this is an improvement of the Zytron technology, then I would assume we will see it incorporated into the current models at some point.

Thanks.
Yes it is better than the Cobra on a DAC or CDP or media server, but not on a preamp or amp.

The Alpha Digital PC does not replace any current cable. It is an application specific cable and works alongside the existing cables. To use a medical analogy, you can think of it as a specific drug that targets a specific disease.

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