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Old 09-13-2014, 11:20 AM
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John DeVore, and all DeVore owners, please excuse the following.
This is a personal opinion only. And does not describe an absolute fact. You are a great creator and you design superbly musical speakers.

I could not resist the temptation any longer to try my P3ESR's in one of my other system.
So I tried them in the DeVore Super 8's system. The room is huge and opened everywhere. A nightmare for any speaker.
And guess what happened ?
While the Super 8's could hardly qualify for the ideal stand for little bookshelf speakers, the P3ESR's killed my beloved Devore's !
What would happen with dedicated stands ??

And they did not only killed them. They burried them. And they started to shout everywhere that DeVore Super 8's are a lie.

Do you know how the french lovers club of the LS3/5 A speaker call it ? The " Bitch ".
Why ? Because it kills every other speaker you put next to her.

I won't detail the sound and why I do not want to listen to the Super 8's anymore since I got the P3ESR. The ones who want to know will have to listen to both of them in my house.

Amplifier is the MAC1500 receiver with NOS RCA 7591 tubes. An integrated which uses a simplified version of the MC 225 amplifier. Very similar to the MA230 integrated.

Source is the Rega P9 TT, with DENON DL103 Expert Stylus Co. And Auditorium 23 Standard 103 SUT.

Please do not misunderstand me. DeVore Super 8's are great great speakers. Harbeth P3ESR's are just MUCH MUCH better TO MY EARS. Their performance is simply out of this world.

Thanks for reading.









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Jerome, how do you really feel?
Randy,

I feel BAD.
Because I thought that my HiFi buyings / sellings were over. And now I have 3 pairs of speakers to sell, to replace them by Harbeth...

Damn Damn Damn....,
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Randy,

I feel BAD.
Because I thought that my HiFi buyings / sellings were over. And now I have 3 pairs of speakers to sell, to replace them by Harbeth...

Damn Damn Damn....,
Jerome... How can your HiFi buying be over, when mine isn't.
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Jerome... How can your HiFi buying being over, when mine isn't.


Ivan, I am ill.
You are plain nuts.
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And they did not only killed them. They burried them. And they started to shout everywhere that DeVore Super 8's are a lie.
Jérôme.......Man oh man, you gave me a good laugh. I'm still chuckling.

You haven't forgotten how to stir the pot.

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Jérôme.......Man oh man, you gave me a good laugh. I'm still chuckling. You haven't forgotten how to stir the pot. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Dan,
Let's go further.
My 8 year old daughter just came.
She said : this is awful. Why did you put the little speakers on the others ?
I replied : you are right honey. This is awful. Just a test. But how do you like the sound ?
She said : the sound is fabulous. Much better than before. The big ones are playing right ? ( showing the Super 8's ).
I replied : no. You are listening to the little ones above.
She : what ??? Really ??? Wow !!! They sound so big and beautiful !

"Verity comes out from children's mouth".
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Dan,
Let's go further.
My 8 year old daughter just came.
She said : this is awful. Why did you put the little speakers on the others ?
I replied : you are right honey. This is awful. Just a test. But how do you like the sound ?
She said : the sound is fabulous. Much better than before. The big ones are playing right ? ( showing the Super 8's ).
I replied : no. You are listening to the little ones above.
She : what ??? Really ??? Wow !!! They sound so big and beautiful !

"Verity comes out from children's mouth".
French proverb.
Mazel Tov Jerome, you not only have great audio, but you have better children. A true accomplishment.
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