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Old 05-01-2013, 02:38 AM
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Does anyone knows the Klipschorns today have closed backs (like the 60th Anniversary Edition)?

Please advise as over here, there's not a chance Klipschorns are available for audition. So, never will have the chance to check on back of the speaker. Thanks.
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I have no idea about the current models. The design that was originally intended to replace the Khorn as the Klipschorn II, does have an enclosed back. (you can search on Jubilee if you care to)

Unfortunately, with PWK's passing, the Jubilee never made it into the residential lineup. It was put into their cinema lineup.

Might be worth noting that the Jubilee has historically been available for a similar expense (possibly even less) than a new pair of Klipschorns.
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Does anyone knows the Klipschorns today have closed backs (like the 60th Anniversary Edition)?

Please advise as over here, there's not a chance Klipschorns are available for audition. So, never will have the chance to check on back of the speaker. Thanks.
60th Anniversary Edition K-horns have closed backs.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:28 AM
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60th Anniversary Edition K-horns have closed backs.
Thanks Pyro ... How about the current production K-horns? Closed back too?
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Unknown with the current Khorns. I would say, "No."

I owned the 60th Anniversary Khorns which were sealed in the back but ended up selling them.

Khorns are very room dependent and need to be placed right up in the corner so I am not sure why you are so concerned about whether they are sealed in the back.

I also owned the LaScala II's which were very nice speakers. If only I knew about electronic crossovers and subs at that time.
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Unknown with the current Khorns. I would say, "No."

I owned the 60th Anniversary Khorns which were sealed in the back but ended up selling them.

Khorns are very room dependent and need to be placed right up in the corner so I am not sure why you are so concerned about whether they are sealed in the back.

I also owned the LaScala II's which were very nice speakers. If only I knew about electronic crossovers and subs at that time.
Hi Pyro, I dont have 2 corners ..... and thats my concern. If the back is sealed, this concern is no longer valid as its like any other speakers. Thanks for the advise. So if I am into K-Horns, then I will have to look up the 60th Anniversary, which is most unlikely to show up over here.
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If you don't have 2 corners, the Khorns may not be right for you.
LaScalas would be a better option
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Hi Pyro, I dont have 2 corners ..... and thats my concern. If the back is sealed, this concern is no longer valid as its like any other speakers. Thanks for the advise. So if I am into K-Horns, then I will have to look up the 60th Anniversary, which is most unlikely to show up over here.
Jerry,

My 60th anniversary Khorns still needed corners.

IMHO - If you want Khorns and don't have two good corners, I would suggest LaScala II's, a pair of JL audio subs and a active crossover.

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Thanks Pyro ... How about the current production K-horns? Closed back too?
In case my comment was missed, I'll say something else.

The Khorn has been in production for something like 60+ years but, is still essentially the same design.

PWK set out one day to revisit the Khorn and take it back to a 2-way design. He got to work on it with his side-kick Roy Delgado. They came up with a design that was to become the Klipschorn II. Some of its design goals were to have the same footprint of the Khorn (done), higher crossover point to allow for a 2-way format (done) and lower the distortion (done). In fact, with regard to distortion, from what I understand, the "Klipschorn II" has 1/3'rd the distortion levels of the Khorn. A nice accomplishment.

PWK passed away and the company shelved the "Klipschorn II" but instead installed it into their cinema lineup as a 3-way speaker.

The Jubilee is that speaker. I'll attach a picture of it.

I know a fine chap who lives in England. He was able to order a brand new pair of Jubilee's, have them delivered to England for the SAME amount that it cost me (thanks to the exchange rates at the time)

Because the Jubilee is in the cinema lineup, it isn't price pointed for home use. Meaning, the original price point for the Jubilee was being discussed at $20/25K for a pair. Because they are not "home" speakers, you can buy them (domestically) for essentially a third of that price. Point being, if a (domestic) buyer wants to buy a new pair of Klipschorns, they can for similar or possibly fewer dollars, instead buy the Jubilee and have PWK's last design in their home. Side benefit is, a stock Jubilee has 50 years of his experience designed into it rather than the Khorn being a 60 year old design.

I'll bet he learned a thing or two in his 50 years of making horns.


The Jubilee also has a closed back, making it less corner dependent. You NEED the corner to get the lowest octave out of it however, if you use a subwoofer or two, you can use it freely in the room or in a corner. I use a pair of Danley DTS-10 subs which are currently awaiting return of their active crossover.

When I first heard the Juiblee, I decided in about 30 seconds that it was the sound I was looking for. I went home, put an order in for a pair and sold my Khorns within an hour (literally) to help fund the new purchase. I have not missed my Khorns for 4 nano-seconds since.
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Thats the nicest thing I heard. Problem is how to and who/where to order such a pair of Jubilees? Care to share (PM me if need be, I am all years and utomost interested).

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In case my comment was missed, I'll say something else.

The Khorn has been in production for something like 60+ years but, is still essentially the same design.

PWK set out one day to revisit the Khorn and take it back to a 2-way design. He got to work on it with his side-kick Roy Delgado. They came up with a design that was to become the Klipschorn II. Some of its design goals were to have the same footprint of the Khorn (done), higher crossover point to allow for a 2-way format (done) and lower the distortion (done). In fact, with regard to distortion, from what I understand, the "Klipschorn II" has 1/3'rd the distortion levels of the Khorn. A nice accomplishment.

PWK passed away and the company shelved the "Klipschorn II" but instead installed it into their cinema lineup as a 3-way speaker.

The Jubilee is that speaker. I'll attach a picture of it.

I know a fine chap who lives in England. He was able to order a brand new pair of Jubilee's, have them delivered to England for the SAME amount that it cost me (thanks to the exchange rates at the time)

Because the Jubilee is in the cinema lineup, it isn't price pointed for home use. Meaning, the original price point for the Jubilee was being discussed at $20/25K for a pair. Because they are not "home" speakers, you can buy them (domestically) for essentially a third of that price. Point being, if a (domestic) buyer wants to buy a new pair of Klipschorns, they can for similar or possibly fewer dollars, instead buy the Jubilee and have PWK's last design in their home. Side benefit is, a stock Jubilee has 50 years of his experience designed into it rather than the Khorn being a 60 year old design.

I'll bet he learned a thing or two in his 50 years of making horns.


The Jubilee also has a closed back, making it less corner dependent. You NEED the corner to get the lowest octave out of it however, if you use a subwoofer or two, you can use it freely in the room or in a corner. I use a pair of Danley DTS-10 subs which are currently awaiting return of their active crossover.

When I first heard the Juiblee, I decided in about 30 seconds that it was the sound I was looking for. I went home, put an order in for a pair and sold my Khorns within an hour (literally) to help fund the new purchase. I have not missed my Khorns for 4 nano-seconds since.
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