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Call Mr Vu and he'll get you set up. Had one years ago - worked well, but IIRC the TT still had some springiness to it from footfalls, but; better than just being on the credenza. Best Sirs, Bob
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Perhaps one reason I don't play records much, other than the time factor, is the footfall issue. I think that's driving this search for something better suited to my circumstances. If I balk and choose to move on SACD or speakers instead I could still get a platform for the current VPI and see if that helps; it weighs around 60 lbs. I still favor a detachable headshell (spoiled by my SME 309), which takes me to Pro-ject's Signature line. The Signatures don't come with a dustcover, adding to the TT's cost (bummer). There are the "SuperPack" versions, with cartridge, and the Signature 10 SuperPack is $7K; the regular Signature 10 (no cartridge) is $6K. That's still a lot, and I don't know if I'd play enough records to justify that expense. The Xtension 10 SuperPack, on the other hand, is $4K and the Xtension 12 SuperPack is $5K, both WITH dustcover. If I can get past the lack of a removable headshell I will do better. I'm not there yet. Time will tell if I feel more strongly about my TT, SACD, or speakers. I can't afford to do them all; it's probably one or none. But I do like the idea of the Xtension 10 so far, as it seems to have good vibration-resistance.
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I've sent an e-mail off to Sumiko, Pro-Ject's USA distributor, asking about additional costs involved in substituting an Ortofon TA-110 or SME 309 arm on the Xtension 10, as I really do prefer the detachable headshell. We'll see what they say.
Meantime, I'd forgotten about the Sotas. I'm keeping an eye on them too, namely the Sapphire and this Star/Nova.
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Well, I got a reply from Sumiko. The Xtension 10 comes with the Evolution arm only. If I want a different arm I'd have to go to the Xtension 12, where I could choose no arm or select Ortofon arms (not much discount with no arm, however). The TA-110 on an Xtension 12 would run me about $4400 and represents a custom order; it would take three to four months to get it.
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A follow-up e-mail from Pro-Ject reveals that vibration resistance is about the same between the Xtension 10 and 12, since they're about the same weight. The main advantage to the 12 is the 12" arm. Aren't longer arms supposed to track better, or something like that?
The Ortofon TA-110 and 210 are supposed to have good vibration damping due in part to the rubber compound inserted into the arm. The 110 is a 9" arm, so theoretically the 210 is better. So if money isn't a big issue by the time I'm ready, it looks like an Xtension12 with a 210 arm. But I like the look of the 110 a bit better.
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12" arms have lower tracing distortion than 9" arms. I love my 12" arm.
They generally have higher effective mass, so you should check to make sure your cartridge is compatible. There is a calculator on the vinyl engine website that will tell if you if you have an ideal combination. You are looking for an arm-cartridge resonant frequency between 8 Hz and 11 Hz. Any lower and footfalls are amplified, any higher and the bass gets flabby. Mass is your friend if you are having footfall issues. The rotating mass of my turntable is 50 pounds. That's just the platter mind you, the rest of the turntable weighs more. Good luck on your journey! Tom
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I also explore an isolation platform for my current (or future) TT and have been in contact with Gingko. That could be a short-term action (provided it works) while I try to fix my head and make sensible decisions going forward.
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It's sure hard to make these tradeoffs! Your existing turntable is no slouch so trying some additional isolation would open up funds for other upgrades.
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I'm to allow four weeks for delivery; Mr. Vu said he will make sure the platform arrives within that time, as I'm headed south for the holidays 12/18.
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