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Old 05-04-2021, 02:39 AM
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Hey everyone -- this is my first posting on AA. I suppose I'm not the first to say that AA could well stand for Audio Addicts or Audioholics Anonymous, correct? Since I'm not allowed to start a new thread until I've posted ten times I thought I'd tag onto this thread and ask:

Where's the love for Furutech products around here? Yes, it's clear that the Flux 50 is very popular and the GTX-D (R) NCF Duplex Receptacle gets mentioned pretty regularly, but Furutech in general doesn't seem to receive the respect it deserves as best as I can tell. I haven't been able to peruse that many threads as of yet, but that is my impression so far.

The reason I'm asking is that I'm thinking of setting up power conditioning using Furutech products prior to the (possible) addition of either an AQ Niagara 1200 or a PS Audio Stellar PowerPlant 3 (SP3). One of the latter two would be added later. If anyone would like to give me some feedback on this general appraoch I would appreciate it. Combining prior line conditioning with a regenerator or a more sophisticated power conditioner like the 1200 further up the chain is not a new idea. The Furutech products I'm considering right now are:

--GTX-D (R) NCF Duplex Receptacle+ outlet cover
--Furutech power cable: either Absolute 15 Plus or Evolution II
--Flux 50 Line filter
--Power Conditioner/Distributor: either e-TP609 NCF or GTO-D2 or D3 R NCF Power Distributor
--Power cables from the conditioner/distributor to source components could be the Venom 14s or the Analysis Plus Oval 10s and/or the Rega Reference Mains AC pc to my Rega Elicit-R amp.

What is the difference between a (Furutech TP609) power conditioner and a (GTO D2) power distributor?

Would it make sense to eliminate the TP609 if I ended up adding the 1200 or the SP3?

I have a mid-priced ($7-8K) 2-channel system:

--Rega Apollo-R cdp>Denafrips Ares II DAC>Rega Ellicit-R amp>Graham Audio LS6 speakers/
>Monoprice Liquid Platinum HP amp (HPs: Audeze LCD3 pre-fazor; HFM HEXv2; MassDrop HD6xx; HFM Sundara)

--Transparent Audio 75 ohm digital coax cable, cdp>dac;
--Transparent Audio MusicLink Plus MM2 IC, dac>Rega Elicit-R;
--Chord Clearway cable, amp>HP amp
--Power cables are currently all stock equipment
--I will soon be upgrading my main IC and speaker cables to DNM (http://www.dnm.co.uk/cablesdetail.html)

What am I overlooking? What is redundant? My wife and I listen to pre-classical baroque, renaissance, medieval, sacred choral, world music and occasional rock at low to moderate volumes. I have no idea what the quality of AC is in the house (built in 1991) that's located in downtown Santa Fe. We have no electrical issues that I am aware of, except for a circuit breaker once in a blue moon in the kitchen.

I have no access to the 'guts' (cables, etc.) of my system, wholly located in a very heavy wooden cabinet that I am unable to move by myself. I have an audio tech come over every so often to swap out equipment when I want to do upgrades. These upgrades are done in tandem to save on service fees so I often don't have a way to properly test/compare/evaluate the impact of any particular component or cable. So I just take my best shot and deal with it! Not very audiophilic of me, I know -- but that's a big reason why I'm here, to get exposed to as much helpful information as I can. So far the changes I've made have worked out pretty well. I won't reach audio nirvana this way, but I hope to keep improving SQ nevertheless.

Thanks in advance for any wisdom and experience you can offer!
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:33 PM
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stevehecht... Welcome to AA!
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Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

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Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 08-07-2021, 09:38 AM
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I have 4. There are a freat devices.
It's very sad to say that Furutech stopped to made them.
They are replaced by Furutech Flux 50 NCF Gold.
I wait one to compare with the Rhodium version.
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Old 12-05-2021, 01:48 AM
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The original Flux 50 were rhodium plated?
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Old 12-05-2021, 08:37 AM
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Guys and gals get your hands on the NCF Clear line A/C Optimizer. I currently have one and the pretty much plug and play effect is just a must try. I placed mine in an unused slot on my power distributor but any unused bank can be used even at the wall if using a duplex. The results parallels what others are saying here about the Flux.
Best of all is its price for such a huge return.
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MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
CAPE COD

MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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