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Old 07-20-2022, 11:24 AM
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@khashmi did you ever get your 807 adapters? One thing I meant to tell you is that when I first got those Russian 807 tubes I hated them. Was going to throw them out kind of hate. At the time I only had the GE 6sn7 that came with the amp. Later on when I had a variety of tubes to use I put them back in by accident and was wowed. Took mew a little while to realize they were the same tubes I hated so much before. Makes me wonder how many times people have not liked certain tubes only because they never tried the with other combos.
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@khashmi did you ever get your 807 adapters? One thing I meant to tell you is that when I first got those Russian 807 tubes I hated them. Was going to throw them out kind of hate. At the time I only had the GE 6sn7 that came with the amp. Later on when I had a variety of tubes to use I put them back in by accident and was wowed. Took mew a little while to realize they were the same tubes I hated so much before. Makes me wonder how many times people have not liked certain tubes only because they never tried the with other combos.
Isaacc7: Thanks for remembering. Yes, I did get the plate adapters last week. I ended up getting them from Amptata on eBay and they look to be of good quality. However, I’ve been so addicted to the Visseaux that I havn’t had time to test the 807’s yet. However, that changes in a very dramatic way next week as I plan to visit another audiiophile’s house in Canada who has been using 807’s on his Decware Rachael for a quite a while but doesn’t have the Ferrantis. So I’m planning to take my Ferrantis with me to test on his rig and compare them to his stock. He is planning a blind listening session for me since he has both the Decware and the Coincident tube amp—looking forward to it!
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Old 07-20-2022, 10:44 PM
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A quick news item. Dennis was unaware that AA had a Marketplace and is interested in giving it a try. I told him to let me know what he wanted to try and sell there, and I would make it happen. A one off amp or perhaps a phono pre amp or two. I also have a boatload of the tubes Dennis uses in his amps, and will put some up for sale in the Marketplace as well when I have some time. Remember, you have access to the Marketplace as a subscriber, so make sure your subscriptions are paid up.

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A quick news item. Dennis was unaware that AA had a Marketplace and is interested in giving it a try. I told him to let me know what he wanted to try and sell there, and I would make it happen. A one off amp or perhaps a phono pre amp or two. I also have a boatload of the tubes Dennis uses in his amps, and will put some up for sale in the Marketplace as well when I have some time. Remember, you have access to the Marketplace as a subscriber, so make sure your subscriptions are paid up.

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Old 07-21-2022, 12:33 AM
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A quick news item. Dennis was unaware that AA had a Marketplace and is interested in giving it a try. I told him to let me know what he wanted to try and sell there, and I would make it happen. A one off amp or perhaps a phono pre amp or two. I also have a boatload of the tubes Dennis uses in his amps, and will put some up for sale in the Marketplace as well when I have some time. Remember, you have access to the Marketplace as a subscriber, so make sure your subscriptions are paid up.

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I didn't realize there was a marketplace on here. Uh oh, my wallet is crying already...
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Old 07-21-2022, 12:42 AM
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My tube rolling continues... Having decided that the ecc32 was out of my price range I gave up on it. Someone on another forum pointed out that the ecc31 was essentially the same tube but with a single cathode. With the right adapter, same as a 6n7 to 6sn7, I could use it. Ecc31 are quite a bit less expensive than the ecc32 so I couldn't resist.

I am getting some of the weirdest results I have ever gotten with a tube. It sounds like things are out of phase, no center image and everything is diffuse and big sounding. On top of that the midrange sounds wayyyyyy forward. On a whim I switched the polarity of one of the speakers to see if it was out of phase. Nope, same problem but worse. Just to be complete I did the same thing on the other side after correcting the first side. Same result.

I talked to the guy that made the adapters. He pointed out that if they were miswired I wouldn't get sound and/or there would be some bad consequences. So I don't think that's the problem.

Lots of folks said that as long as your amp can take the increased heater load, the adapted ecc31 would work instead of a 6sn7. Now that I look at the data sheet, the ra is about twice than that of a 6sn7. Is that what I'm hearing?
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Old 07-21-2022, 07:01 AM
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Isaacc7: Thanks for remembering. Yes, I did get the plate adapters last week. I ended up getting them from Amptata on eBay and they look to be of good quality. However, I’ve been so addicted to the Visseaux that I havn’t had time to test the 807’s yet. However, that changes in a very dramatic way next week as I plan to visit another audiiophile’s house in Canada who has been using 807’s on his Decware Rachael for a quite a while but doesn’t have the Ferrantis. So I’m planning to take my Ferrantis with me to test on his rig and compare them to his stock. He is planning a blind listening session for me since he has both the Decware and the Coincident tube amp—looking forward to it!
They will need some hours to open up. I'm not sure mine have fully settled in.
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