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View Poll Results: Are we alone in the universe?
We are alone in the Universe as far as intelligent life goes 7 9.33%
We are not alone but have not been in contact with intelligent life yet 27 36.00%
We are not alone and we have visitors but have not been in contact yet 13 17.33%
We are not alone and we have been contacted but it is not public knowledge 28 37.33%
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Old 06-20-2019, 02:43 PM
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I have no doubt that they're out there, but I'm surprised that there hasn't been any unequivocal proof yet.

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I'm no security expert but considering the government stance on it, at least the public version such as "oh, perhaps this should be investigated but we don't believe it is aliens..." seriously underlines the fact that these sightings are nothing new and perhaps there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Imagine if they seriously did not believe it was extraterrestrial but an enemy state in possession of such technology that not only defies physics but for all practical purposes renders our own conventional technology such as state of the art fighter aircraft and missiles obsolete. How much panic would there be then?
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Can I assume that all respondents are earthlings?
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Can I assume that all respondents are earthlings?
Kal.......I look like one in the mirror, but I can't be absolutely certain. .
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I think the Vatican has information which may significantly alter our concepts of God and extraterrestrial life.
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“Unique - 1. being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else.”

The only evidence that would prove we are indeed unique is if we were able to explore every galaxy and solar system in the universe and found no other life like ours. Short of that, our uniqueness is only a theory with insufficient evidence to prove or disprove it.
Sorta true.. You're right in that you can't definitively state we are unique without *all* information. But based off the all the evidence we actually have, none of it supports life on other planets. Period. So I based my statement off current knowledge base.
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You cannot have a discussion with someone who is using the bible or religious beliefs, covertly or not, to defend his position on a scientific subject.

Faith has no business in this discussion. That which is taken on faith is irrational. Making a statement based on statistical probability of life elsewhere is not one based on faith. Stating life does NOT exist elsewhere is based on faith. After all, WE are here. It is very self-centered and egotistical to think that we are unique.

Just because we do not yet have evidence of extraterrestrial life does not mean it doesn't exist. I was recently speaking about extraterrestrial life with a colleague of mine who is an orthopedic surgeon (presumably an intelligent guy). I asked him why he doesn't believe there is life elsewhere in the universe. His reply was "I just can't." I pushed him for a reason. He told me he has to believe the earth is unique because not believing that would put him in opposition to his religion.

This topic is one rife for mental masturbation.

I assume this was aimed at me, so figured I would respond soas not to let you put words in my mouth.

Faith and beliefs are not restricted to religious scenarios. They are not provocative terms. They simply convey a means to say something is true without the ability to prove it.

I will say this for the at 4th time (I think). There is no scientific evidence to support life exists outside of earth. All the scientific evidence supports life only exists on earth. To say otherwise is not scientific.
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Sorta true.. You're right in that you can't definitively state we are unique without *all* information. But based off the all the evidence we actually have, none of it supports life on other planets. Period. So I based my statement off current knowledge base.
Is that why we keep spending some serious $$$ on looking for potential habitable exoplanets and in our rather recent beginnings have already compiled a pretty impressive list of them? That's just in our "neighborhood". While true that it is NOT certain if they actually are but it also NOT true that the are NOT. Time will tell.

We can't even get a good grasp on what has transpired on our planet over the billions of years yet. Looking at Antarctica today, it is a lonely, desolate place covered in ice.... Yet fossils reveal it was once a lush and green place full of life.
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I assume this was aimed at me, so figured I would respond soas not to let you put words in my mouth.

Faith and beliefs are not restricted to religious scenarios. They are not provocative terms. They simply convey a means to say something is true without the ability to prove it.

I will say this for the at 4th time (I think). There is no scientific evidence to support life exists outside of earth. All the scientific evidence supports life only exists on earth. To say otherwise is not scientific.
Sorry, no serious scientist would ever say that with certainty. In fact most support the idea there is plenty of life out there. The proof is yet to be discovered, at least as far as the public is concerned....
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