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Old 04-27-2013, 06:01 PM
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Default K-03 break-in

I have read that this unit will improve significantly over 500 hours of use. Fair enough. I know they supply a break-in disc specifically for the purposes.

Was wondering, what is the purpose of this particular disc as compared to just playing music as you normally would over that same period of time?

Interested in the rationale behind this and how it is supposed to affect the sound.

Also wondering, assuming you do run the break-in disc, no need to have the rest of the system (preamp and amps) on, right?

Very interested in your particular break-in experience, method and sound evolution, as my unit is on its way!

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Old 04-27-2013, 06:35 PM
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You can do both, and you should when you can play a cd or 50 you like, sacd and cd, and dac files etc.

But the disc has special tones etc and other features to aid in the process. I used mine when i was away from the 03.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:20 PM
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Thanks Dave.

I did some digging through previous Esoteric posts, and seems details on the "why" is pretty light.

Ivan, any chance of getting a good technical explanation from the Esoteric folks on the subject?

Since you have the bat phone and all...

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Old 04-27-2013, 07:41 PM
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Matt.......Here is what Esoteric/TEAC has to say about the break-in disc.





The Esoteric TEAC Iso-Tek System Conditioning disc was developed to reduce the time needed for system break-in or "burn-in". It is well known that audio systems require 400-500 hours to fully break-in and sound their very best.

All signals on this disc were produced according to strict mathematical criteria for system burn-in. The tracks also include a demagnetizing function for audio components, helping to 'rejuvenate' your entire system, post burn-in.

It is important to exercise the component and/or system across the full range of frequencies and amplitudes it may encounter in real life, and to this end the tones on this disc have been devised to cover the audio band from top to bottom, also ensuring that high amplitude signals are combined with high speed signals.

There is good reason for the various signals and tones on this disc bearing no relation, perceived or calculated, to music. At first sight, the problem of burning in a component and/or system may seem to call for some kind of signal that resembles music in certain specifics but somehow ‘works faster’ in exercising and/or settling down the various components within the system. But while such a signal can be generated, it doesn’t burn equipment in very fast and doesn’t address the rejuvenation function either. The required signal features high-speed activity coupled with high-amplitude excursions. All of these signals have been produced according to strict mathematical criteria so as to place the greatest stress on the important parts of a component or system - WITHOUT, it is important to note, endangering any part of it. If this disc is played at normal listening levels (volume control set as for your favorite listening material), there is NOTHING in it that will damage any normal music system. Raising the volume level higher will NOT improve the disc’s performance. If you play our disc at extremely high volume levels we will not be held responsible for damage that may occur.

The Esoteric TEAC Iso-Tek burn in/break in disc features three tracks. 0.1 (30 minutes) and 0.2 (30 minutes) are similar, with the second being optimized for systems with large loudspeakers and/or subwoofer(s). In general, use 0.1 for most stand-mounted speakers, 0.2 for floor-standing models, except perhaps the slimmest.

The differences are neither profound nor dangerous, but the benefits of 0.2, in the right situations, we have found to be audible. The last few minutes of each track are intended specifically for system demagnetizing and we DO advise that playback of each track should be performed in full.

Track 0.3 (5 minutes) has been specifically developed as a quick ‘spruce-up’ for the hi-fi, consisting of a little of the ‘hi-fi aerobics’ from the start or Tracks 0.1 and 0.2 followed by a slightly less comprehensive demagnetization regime which, however, should be quite adequate to redress any ill effects accruing over a day or two’s use or disuse.

This is a great disk for breaking in high-end components, cables, speakers....whatever is connected to your CD player. For those using a computer for Hi-Rez music files, rip to your hard drive and break-in your Fire-wire/USB cable (plus) all cables hooked to your DAC!

Features:
• Fully burns in a complete audio or home theater component system
• Burns in a digital recorder, data storage recording device, loudspeakers, wire and cable
• Fully demagnetizes
• Rejuvenation track which can be used as a daily warm up or weekly cleanse
• Suitable for all systems
• Includes 65 minutes of burn-in, full system demagnetization and rejuvenation tracks.

Selections:
Track 1:
Full system burn-in and demagnetization for electronics, interconnects and cables.

Track 2:
Full system burn-in and conditioning with additional low level tones affecting electronics, interconnects, cables, sub-woofers and loudspeakers.

Track 3:
Full system enhancement and rejuvenation (Post burn-in), including demagnetization tones effecting electronics, interconnects, cables, sub-woofers and loudspeakers.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:45 PM
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Here is 6moons take on the break-in disc: 6moons audio reviews: IsoTek System Enhancer
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:50 PM
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Thanks Dave.

I did some digging through previous Esoteric posts, and seems details on the "why" is pretty light.

Ivan, any chance of getting a good technical explanation from the Esoteric folks on the subject?

Since you have the bat phone and all...

Dan beat me to it!
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:52 PM
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Great details, thanks everyone, I just ran the cd on repeat for weeks since you are suppose to and spun some disc when I was around too.

I kinda felt it was a good idea to use the USB input circuit to to read data through as well. I had an idea of all the test tones etc and other features, but nowhere near this much detail.

nice thanks Dan and others
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Wow on the first player I used the Esoteric burn in Disc, on the Second I just play good quality music, and is going better than I expect
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Dan beat me to it!
Oh dear - you BOTH have a batphone???




Thanks Dan for sharing, that was interesting to read. Not sure I really understand how the "maths, demagnetization or rejuvenation" promised here actually work - but that's OK.

I will try the disc as part of the break-in process, but one thing is for sure, I certainly will be playing a lot of music along the way as I enjoy the journey!

Cheers

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Old 04-28-2013, 09:24 AM
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Oh dear - you BOTH have a batphone???



Cheers

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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

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