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I went from a 452 to 611’s, no regrets, sound great with my Sopra 2’s.
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Focal Sopra 2, MC611’s, C1100, MCD1100, Zesto Andros, Feickert Woodpecker/Kuzma Stogi Ref 313 VTA, Hana Umami Red, HRS, HiFi Rose RS130, Schiit Yggy, AQ Niagara 5000 w/Hurricanes, Cardas, WireWorld Silver 7's. |
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Moving from mcintosh mc462 to mono blocks
When I was faced with the same decision a couple of years ago, I listened to the 601’s and the 1.2’s back to back for a couple of hours and the 1.2’s were easily better, even my wife could hear the difference.
I know the new models are somewhat different but I feel the result will probably be the same. I had the 800D3’s and the 1.2’s were much better at driving those speakers and made a significant difference. I’d suggest go for the 1.25’s if you can afford it (well you know what I mean [emoji22]) and like Charles said, they will pretty much drive anything you may get in the future. The only downside is the weight of those beasts! |
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FWIW, I've read reports that the move from the 462 to the 611's yields a very significant improvement....
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Pete No. 35 Main System: VPI Prime Signature TT in Rosewood, Ortofon Cadenza Black, Stillpoints LP1 V2, McIntosh: MP100, MR78, MCD1000 Transport on Stillpoint Ultra Minis, MDA1000 D/A Converter on Stillpoint Ultra Minis, MS750 Music Server, C40, MC501's (3), Soundcraftsmen: DC2215 Eq/AS1000 Real time analyzer, DBX 3BX II, Carver C9, Nakamichi Dragon, Crown SX724, Crown D-75A (as headphone amp), Sony XBR55X900E 4K TV, JBL L220A's, JBL B460, Sumo Delilah active crossover, WireWorld Silver Eclipse audio interconnects, WireWorld Starlight and Silver Starlight Coaxial Digital interconnects, Wireworld SuperNova 7 Toslink digital interconnect, WireWorld Aurora 7 and Silver Electra Power cords, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 8 speaker cables, Terk AF-1 Powered Antenna, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-Ray Player, Bryson BUC-1 USB Converter, Wireworld Gold Starlight XLR Digital interconnect, PS Audio Direct Stream Power Plant 12 on Stillpoint Ultra Minis, PS Audio Dectect, FuruTech Flux-50 NCF Inline Power Filter, Add-Powr Wizard EM Field AC Line conditioner; Stillpoint Ultra SS's under (3) McIntosh MC501 Amplifiers Florida Room/Art Studio System: Harmon Kardon T60 TT/Ortofon 2M Black, McIntosh: MR77, C32, MC2205; Crown Power Line Four, Wyred for Sound DAC-2 Digital to Analog converter, Soundcraftsmen AE2000 Eq, JBL 4313B's, JBL 2241-based Sub, JBL BX63A Active Crossover, Oppo BDP-105D Blu-Ray Player, Samsung 5500 Series 32" Smart TV, Terk AF-1 Powered Antenna Master Bedroom System: McIntosh: MX120 Theater processor, MC206 6-channel amplifier; MR74 AM/FM Tuner, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, JVC HM-DH40000U D-Theater Digital VHS, Phase Technology PC80 Towers (now used as stands), (2) JBL 4401's, (1) JBL Studio 6IW speaker, (2) JBL Studio 6IC speakers, Sony XBR-49X900E UHD TV, Panamax 1000 Line Conditioner, (2) JL Audio E110 Subwoofers, Wireworld Solstice speaker cables, Wireworld Aurora Power cords, Wireworld Equinox and Solstice speaker cables and various other flavors of Wireworld and Audioquest cabling Office System: Marantz 150 Tuner, Crown DL 2, Crown EQ 2, Crown SA 2, Crown D-75A (as headphone amp), McIntosh MCD7009 (as transport), DBX 3BX Series II, Oppo BDP-103 Blu-ray player, JBL 4401's, JL Audio E112 Subwoofer, Samsung 5500 series 32" Smart TV, Wire World Oasis audio interconnects, Wire World Solstice speaker cables, Wyred for Sound DAC-2 DSDse Digital to Analog converter, Wireworld Starlight Coaxial Digital Interconnect, Sennheiser HD800 Headphones, Sennheiser HDVA600 Headphone amp, Wireworld Silver Eclipse Balanced Interconnects, Wireworld Platinum Starlight USB Cable, Add-Powr EAU-2 AC Harmonic resonator High Resolution Source: HP Omen 17" Gaming Laptop |
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Moving from mcintosh mc462 to mono blocks
Just my opinion, but I listened to both an MC462 and a pair of MC611’s before purchasing my MC462, and to be honest, I didn’t hear a difference which is one of the reasons I purchased the MC462. The MC1.25 on the other hand is a whole different animal. If you really feel that you need to upgrade, I would skip over the MC611 and go straight to the MC1.25.
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McIntosh MC462, C22 IV, and MR7084; Simaudio Moon 300D V2 DAC; Technics SL1200G, Mac Mini Server; Sonus Faber Grand Piano Home; and Wireworld Cables. Last edited by Stahle; 04-07-2022 at 04:17 AM. |
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my other thought was to add a pair of subwoofers(REL carbon specials or jl audio fathoms) and keep mc462 to hear and feel the difference before upgrading amp's. seems like consensus is that upgrading to 611's will be marginal; upgrading to 1.25 amazing. and with either amps subs may still add a lot to the music. thought?
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I have recently added a pair of REL Carbon Specials. The improvement is incredible! Prior to having the RELs, I have always thought the 802D3 are up to the task of producing bass. The addition of RELs brings the whole experience to the next level (music and movies). This is by far the best upgrade I have ever purchased for my system. If you have the chance, go listen to a properly set up RELs, you will be amazed
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Amps: Mc611s; Bryston 9BST Speakers: B&W 802D3, HTM1D3, B&W SCMs, 2x REL Carbon Special + Analysis Plus REL SpeakOn cable; Pre-Amp: C2700; Processor: Marantz 8805A Sources: Aurender N20; PSA Directstream DAC; JVC RS2000; Stewart Screen Cabaret with StudioTek 130 G4; Oppo UDP-205; Power & Cables: Taralabs bi-wire; WW XLR Silver Eclipse 8; WW Silver Starlight 7 Coax; Denali 6000T, Shunyata Alpha, Delta and Venom. |
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My plan is to also add a sub. I’m thinking a REL S510. Unfortunately I don’t have room for stereo subs so it will be a single one.
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McIntosh MC462, C22 IV, and MR7084; Simaudio Moon 300D V2 DAC; Technics SL1200G, Mac Mini Server; Sonus Faber Grand Piano Home; and Wireworld Cables. |
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I think its where you want to wind up. If you have a small room, Pete's advice is sound. If you have a larger room with plans to go big with stereo subs and higher sound levels, while the 611 will be totally adequate, the 1.25's are the clear choice. I think Stahle is in the former category with a smaller room, but you can't go wrong with a 1.25KW. I agree with the addition of subs. They enhance any high end system. You can obtain great sound from a smaller room.
Best Charles |
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Take the express bus which skips the 611 stop.
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McIntosh MA8000; McIntosh MC1502; Canton Vento Reference 1 DC; E.A.T. E-Flat; Soundsmith Paua Mk II; Technics SL 1210 MK5; Audio Technica AT-150 MLX; Tascam BR-20; Teac X1000R; Pioneer RT-707; Oppo UDP 205; Denon DCD A-100; HP All-In-One Touchscreen Server; JRiver MC 28; Woo Audio WA6; Shure SRH 1840; SVS SB 1000; Jolida 502BRC; Jolida JD9; VPI 16.5 RCM; Wireworld Oasis 8 Speaker Cables; Audoquest Columbia 72 DBS IC's; Panamax PM-5400 (source components only) |
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