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Old 10-14-2009, 09:12 PM
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Ivan(Masterlu) had sent me a set of Wireworld Sliver Eclipse 5.2 1.5m RCA's for demo( no comment as to their performance in my systems) and printed on those RCA's were directional arrows. FYI.
Greg.......OK. I think I can safely say that is the indicator of which RCA connector is grounded to the shield.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:15 PM
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Ivan(Masterlu) had sent me a set of Wireworld Sliver Eclipse 5.2 1.5m RCA's for demo( no comment as to their performance in my systems) and printed on those RCA's were directional arrows. FYI.
See Dan's comment above on the directionality of unbalanced cables.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:16 PM
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Greg.......OK. I think I can safely say that is the indicator of which RCA connector is grounded to the shield.
I have also have directional arrows on my un-shielded Crimson RCA's.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:21 PM
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I have also have directional arrows on my un-shielded Crimson RCA's.
Greg.......So what would those arrows be telling you?
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:25 PM
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Greg.......So what would those arrows be telling you?
....the best direction of the signal going from source to preamp/amp for IC's & from amp to speakers for speaker cables.
What do they tell you Dan?

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Old 10-14-2009, 10:41 PM
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....the best direction of the signal going from source to preamp/amp for IC's & from amp to speakers for speaker cables.
What do they tell you Dan?
Greg.......This is too easy.

They don't tell me anything. I don't own them.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:57 PM
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Greg.......This is too easy.

They don't tell me anything. I don't own them.
Do your speaker cables, whatever brand they are, have directional arrows and do you take advantage of those arrows as the they are optimized for one direction vs the other way, or did you ignore them and consider directional arrows to be of little or no value in the way of sound quality?
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:51 PM
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Do your speaker cables, whatever brand they are, have directional arrows and do you take advantage of those arrows as the they are optimized for one direction vs the other way, or did you ignore them and consider directional arrows to be of little or no value in the way of sound quality?
Greg........If an arrow were printed on a cable jacket, I would be the first to question the reason for the arrow, and once explained to me, I would certainly attempt to take full advantage of any preponderance of superiority from its use. If there is a performance gain to be achieved, then I am all over it. If not, then it is nothing more than a simple advertising gimmick to misdirect users and potential customers into thinking they are aquiring an advantage that is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. We all know that never happens in the audio cable industry.

A printed arrow on a wire's insulation is no guarantee of anything unless the claimed results can be heard and observed by all, and the results duplicated consistantly. Even then, it still represents no evidence of superiority, since sound is so highly subjective from one person to the next. One man likes the arrows towards the speakers, another man likes them towards the amp. Who is right? Both.

I don't claim to know all there is to know about anything, although I am an inquisitive individual, and a seeker of knowledge about that which I am interested. I have been startled a number of times in my audio history by claims that seemingly belie logical explanation, so I am not saying that directional this or that is important or not. What I am saying is, if is sounds good, embrace it. If not, forget about it.

And, no, my speaker cables have no arrows. They are not needed. My Kimber 8TC speaker cables sound spectacular either way I connect them. Imagine that.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:22 AM
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I haven't taken the time to ask why manufacturers place the directional arrows on their RCA interconnects (I guess we can all figure out the XLR) yet they must have a reason since the cables I have owned from Tara Labs, Synergistic Research, Analysis Plus. I don't think it is just because they al had some extra ink lying around.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:03 PM
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After trying several ceramic fuses with my MC2102 & MA6500, I've settled with a T 4A 250V ceramic fuse for my MC2102 & a T 5A 250V for my MA6500.
I did try to get a T 3.15A 250V ceramic fuse in my MC2102 but it was not stable enough and would blow as soon as I turned it on.
This is one tweek that actually works & makes the music sound better by a very noticeable margin and is highly recommended to anyone that wants a improvement in sound from their system(s), not to mention the fact that these fuses were free from Austin Hi Fi. Very cool!

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