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Old 01-01-2017, 03:37 PM
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A friend has Wilson Audio Sasha series 1 and recently we compared it to Focal Utopia Scala V2. I have always been a huge fan of the Focal Utopia range until I heard the Scala in the same room with the same electronics and I cannot begin to explain my disappointment in the Focal.

The Scala sounded absolutely terrible at low to medium volume levels. It sounded dull with poor dynamics and very uninvolving at lowish levels. It only and very suddenly comes alive basically at ear-splitting levels.

The Scala's had poor coherence and it sounded like the bass was doing it own dance. Overall it sounded uninvolving and did not draw me into the music. The Wilson was much better, and I am not a fan of the Sasha V1! Amps were Pass 100.8's

I agree with Bart, you should broaden your horizons, Vivid and YG also comes to mind.
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Old 01-01-2017, 04:46 PM
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I really like Sonus Faber - just always had the idea that they are not a perfect match for rock music - which I listen to a lot.
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:02 PM
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Christoph, just try SF with rock.
They might surprise you!
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:01 PM
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I owned Focal 1028BEs and was tired of the tinitus inducing highs at volumes that make them sound good. Brought some 804D3s home for audition, they didn't move me in any way. Brought some Sabrinas home for demo and was blown away. I tried not to need to buy them as they were twice my budget, but going back to my Focals was painful. Ordered the Sabrinas a day later.

For me it's the musicality, perfect driver integration and big beautiful center image and sound stage overall, the speakers just disappear from the picture. Lower volume performance is also a plus.
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:51 AM
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I currently own Martin Logans and at $15k you may want to audition the new Expression if they fit the room. That said I have listened a lot to the new 802's and the Sabrina. Between those two I like the 802 much better as it seems to have just a bit more of everything. To me once you get to the Sasha's and above though ... Wilson is hard to beat but then the price starting mounting for sure...
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:05 AM
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Over many years I have owned the 805S, 803D1, HTM2D1, 800D1 and most recently the 802D2 (less than 3 months) before switching to the Wilson Sasha's and I have not regretted it for a millisecond.

IMO Wilsons are truely at another level to the B&Ws for pure two channel.
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:52 AM
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@Audiohippo - my 802Diamonds retail @15k - the Sashas @40k. As said before, it's not really fair to compare these two. At 40k you're moving in direction of the original Nautilus... even the 800D3 is 10k less...

As for Focal - seems like they still have the same issue with the tweeter. I used to think Wilsons had the same problem - seem to have the problem fixed in the newer models though... I'll be listening to some soon...

Maybe also SF - we'll see how much better they play - relative to price...
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@Audiohippo - my 802Diamonds retail @15k - the Sashas @40k. As said before, it's not really fair to compare these two. At 40k you're moving in direction of the original Nautilus... even the 800D3 is 10k less...

As for Focal - seems like they still have the same issue with the tweeter. I used to think Wilsons had the same problem - seem to have the problem fixed in the newer models though... I'll be listening to some soon...

Maybe also SF - we'll see how much better they play - relative to price...
You need to hear Yvette. Very close to the Sasha's.
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@Audiohippo - my 802Diamonds retail @15k - the Sashas @40k. As said before, it's not really fair to compare these two. At 40k you're moving in direction of the original Nautilus... even the 800D3 is 10k less...

As for Focal - seems like they still have the same issue with the tweeter. I used to think Wilsons had the same problem - seem to have the problem fixed in the newer models though... I'll be listening to some soon...

Maybe also SF - we'll see how much better they play - relative to price...
Sasha 2s are $33950
Yvettes are $25550
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Old 01-02-2017, 03:34 AM
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In Europe Sasha 2s are 40.000 & Yvettes 31.000...

Maybe - if they really play that much better than the B&Ws (and you would have to compare to the bigger 800D3) it`s worth trying to get some in the States (I could probably get transport & import organized).

We`ll see - I`ll do some listening in the next few months...
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