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Old 08-21-2012, 05:56 PM
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I spoke with the folks at Revel today. They advised power in the 500+ range, but cautioned against anything more than 750 watts (and then proceeded to give me a technical talk on overheating drivers....all very interesting). When I asked about bi-amping (active or passive), they weren't in favor of it. When I asked about 1200 watts vs 600 watts, they thought the 600 watt amps would be a better fit. Now I'm really confused!

When I spoke with my Mc dealer, he indicated the "sonic signature" of the 601's was different, and in his opinion, better than the 1.2's for the Salon 2's. Not sure if anyone here has an opinion on this...? What I don't want to do is end up with the 601's and wish I had more power. My back can't take much more carrying big a$$ amps up and down the stairs!

A friend of mine who knows a heck of a lot more than me about this stuff, told me "the Salon2 is difficult to drive. It really comes alive with a big amplifier behind it. The difficulty to drive is not just because of the lowish sensitivity; they have impedance dips and phase-angle swings that make it tough on an amplifier."

Maybe 4 601's biamped is the ultimate answer!
Your friend is right, I hope whatever you decide is based on a demo at your house,in your room,with your system.
Then let your ears tell you what sounds best.
Your owners manual explains how to bi-amp your speakers.
Maybe 4 601's would do the trick, but if it was me I'd want to hear the 1.2's also.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:07 PM
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You should ask Dan about the differences in "sonic signature" of the 601's.
He wrote a very nice review of the 601's and has a ton of knowledge about McIntosh gear.
He also owns both the 2301's and the 601's.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:19 PM
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I spoke with the folks at Revel today. They advised power in the 500+ range, but cautioned against anything more than 750 watts (and then proceeded to give me a technical talk on overheating drivers....all very interesting). When I asked about bi-amping (active or passive), they weren't in favor of it. When I asked about 1200 watts vs 600 watts, they thought the 600 watt amps would be a better fit. Now I'm really confused!

When I spoke with my Mc dealer, he indicated the "sonic signature" of the 601's was different, and in his opinion, better than the 1.2's for the Salon 2's. Not sure if anyone here has an opinion on this...? What I don't want to do is end up with the 601's and wish I had more power. My back can't take much more carrying big a$$ amps up and down the stairs!

A friend of mine who knows a heck of a lot more than me about this stuff, told me "the Salon2 is difficult to drive. It really comes alive with a big amplifier behind it. The difficulty to drive is not just because of the lowish sensitivity; they have impedance dips and phase-angle swings that make it tough on an amplifier."

Maybe 4 601's biamped is the ultimate answer!



mbovaird......I will happily/gladly/gleefully swap my MC601's for your pair of MC2301's even trade...............they are in mint shapy and fully broken in
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:19 PM
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You should ask Dan about the differences in "sonic signature" of the 601's.
He wrote a very nice review of the 601's and has a ton of knowledge about McIntosh gear.
He also owns both the 2301's and the 601's.
I did. Dan has been beyond helpful. Thanks Dan!
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:20 PM
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mbovaird......I will happily/gladly/gleefully swap my MC601's for your pair of MC2301's even trade...............they are in mint shapy and fully broken in
uhhh....no thanks! If you had 4 601's, we could talk!
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:02 AM
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May be too late to reply this.
But i do love my Salon2. Regret selling them.
I just needed money to buy new amp, but end up buying cheap amp
Than planned. But Revel has gone.

As you already knew , it s current hunger. Even larger speaker cables will improve bass.
I successfully drove them with Moon W7M, vitus ss101, pass xa160.5, Arc ref250.
But not so well with ML 436, pass x350.5, mc402.

Spike and spike disc can also change tonality, pls try.
I am sure salon2 has better treble than that of my new magico q3.
I got the most beautiful voice from them driven by ref250.
But most punchy out of Moon and Pass.

Toga
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:09 AM
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May be too late to reply this.
But i do love my Salon2. Regret selling them.
I just needed money to buy new amp, but end up buying cheap amp
Than planned. But Revel has gone.

As you already knew , it s current hunger. Even larger speaker cables will improve bass.
I successfully drove them with Moon W7M, vitus ss101, pass xa160.5, Arc ref250.
But not so well with ML 436, pass x350.5, mc402.

Spike and spike disc can also change tonality, pls try.
I am sure salon2 has better treble than that of my new magico q3.
I got the most beautiful voice from them driven by ref250.
But most punchy out of Moon and Pass.

Toga
Toga,

I would me very interested to hear about your experiences driving them with the xa160.5's.

I sold mine too and do miss them. But my Strads have filled the void nicely. There were some things that the Salon 2's did better than the Strads and visa-versa. No speaker is perfect I guess.

Mike
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