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Old 05-26-2015, 01:53 AM
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Justubes, there is no 22.5 sinc frequency offered on the K-01, 10Mh is the highest. When I set the G-01 output to 22.5, which is offered, the K-01 will not sync up. If there is a Slave Mode available, I haven't been able to find it! Ted.
Yarbird, you are absolutely right, it is only offered with the new K-01x in which the masterclock 22M can be enabled and fed from a separate source.

You should note my comments on the 10M that strangely enough, Esoteric has implemented the output from the Rubidium 10M module and made it go through a PLL which effectively converts this from the raw 10M sine wave to a TTL squarewave.

Most would argue this is another unnecessary stage as your K-01 can accept a sine wave 10M and cannot see how it is possible that the G-01's TTL can be superior to the sine wave. TTL unfortunately, adds more jitter to the signal.

This would have been designed for the earlier Esoteric units which could not accept a 10M input directly or using with other brands converters. If the masterclock setting of 22m and 24m is not an improvement, i would think if the Esoteric R&D team knows that, a new version of the Esoteric clocks would be in development to enable a direct 10M output from their clocks.

But again, that would effectively cannibalize their sales as the raw SRS 10M module with a nice PSU would only cost a fraction and essentially identical in function.
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Old 05-26-2015, 03:32 PM
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Yarbird, you are absolutely right, it is only offered with the new K-01x in which the masterclock 22M can be enabled and fed from a separate source.

You should note my comments on the 10M that strangely enough, Esoteric has implemented the output from the Rubidium 10M module and made it go through a PLL which effectively converts this from the raw 10M sine wave to a TTL squarewave.

Most would argue this is another unnecessary stage as your K-01 can accept a sine wave 10M and cannot see how it is possible that the G-01's TTL can be superior to the sine wave. TTL unfortunately, adds more jitter to the signal.

This would have been designed for the earlier Esoteric units which could not accept a 10M input directly or using with other brands converters. If the masterclock setting of 22m and 24m is not an improvement, i would think if the Esoteric R&D team knows that, a new version of the Esoteric clocks would be in development to enable a direct 10M output from their clocks.

But again, that would effectively cannibalize their sales as the raw SRS 10M module with a nice PSU would only cost a fraction and essentially identical in function.
Good point, Justubes. One would hope, that as interest builds for precision outboard clocks, Esoteric would indeed revise that design element of the G-01 for greater flexibility and superior performance! ...and while I'm at it, a price drop wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit... As it stands, outboard clocking benefits are limited with the older generation of one box players. Though I stress, whether the designs are completely compatible or not, it is still far better to "clock than not!!"
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Yarbird, you are absolutely right, it is only offered with the new K-01x in which the masterclock 22M can be enabled and fed from a separate source.

You should note my comments on the 10M that strangely enough, Esoteric has implemented the output from the Rubidium 10M module and made it go through a PLL which effectively converts this from the raw 10M sine wave to a TTL squarewave.

Most would argue this is another unnecessary stage as your K-01 can accept a sine wave 10M and cannot see how it is possible that the G-01's TTL can be superior to the sine wave. TTL unfortunately, adds more jitter to the signal.

This would have been designed for the earlier Esoteric units which could not accept a 10M input directly or using with other brands converters. If the masterclock setting of 22m and 24m is not an improvement, i would think if the Esoteric R&D team knows that, a new version of the Esoteric clocks would be in development to enable a direct 10M output from their clocks.

But again, that would effectively cannibalize their sales as the raw SRS 10M module with a nice PSU would only cost a fraction and essentially identical in function.
I just re-syncd both my K01-x and G01 clock to the Masterclock setting of 22M.

OMG... the SQ is just crazy; this combo is the gift that keeps giving!
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:06 PM
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Ivan, do you have an idea how this combo performs compared to the Accuphase combo?
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Ivan, do you have an idea how this combo performs compared to the Accuphase combo?
Bart... Of course this rig is here in Cape Cod, my Accuphase ref system is in Florida.

The Burmester/Aida system has the advantage since it not only has 800 hours on it, but I have the room fully treated. Additionally, I have spent 2 years tweaking every aspect.

So, if I had to answer you question today; the Esoteric combo is the better one at this point.
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I just re-syncd both my K01-x and G01 clock to the Masterclock setting of 22M.

OMG... the SQ is just crazy; this combo is the gift that keeps giving!
Pushing another 2 buttons on the G-01 gives another quantum jump in OMG factor

The tweaking of the clock with even better isolation, tweaks, cables, imo can lead to unbelievable further improvements!
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Pushing another 2 buttons on the G-01 gives another quantum jump in OMG factor

The tweaking of the clock with even better isolation, tweaks, cables, imo can lead to unbelievable further improvements!
I have 2 HRS DPX damping plates on top of the G01. Both the K01x & G01 are on 4 Stillpoint SS feet, and both reside on an HRS M3X shelf / SXR rack. All WW Platinum cables are in play too.
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I have 2 HRS DPX damping plates on top of the G01. Both the K01x & G01 are on 4 Stillpoint SS feet, and both reside on an HRS M3X shelf / SXR rack. All WW Platinum cables are in play too.


Glad 22m worked out well!

Should i began with other 2 buttons to push, no pun intended....

Actually, not as simple.

Ivan, you could make a call and get the folks at wireworld to make you a 15cm WW platinum with a sma connector for linking the rubidium module.

It is said to be another next step towards ecstasy!

We'll let you be the 1st to report on this
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Glad 22m worked out well!

Should i began with other 2 buttons to push, no pun intended....

Actually, not as simple.

Ivan, you could make a call and get the folks at wireworld to make you a 15cm WW platinum with a sma connector for linking the rubidium module.

It is said to be another next step towards ecstasy!

We'll let you be the 1st to report on this
What are the two buttons !!!!
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