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Old 02-09-2021, 07:26 AM
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Several years ago, after doing a lot of research, I installed 3 dedicated lines, one for the front end components and two for the monoblocks. The incremental cost of a 3rd line is minimal. The potential problems with feedback loops, etc. can be greatly minimized by using identical length wiring (e.g. Romex) from your mains feed to each outlet. I also installed a subpanel as recommended by Shunyata (in their paper "Suggestion For Home Entertainment Electrical Installations") as the distance from the main panel to the outlets was greater than 20 feet. Equally important to a quiet installation is to ensure that the grounding of your dedicated lines is done correctly. This was also discussed in the Shunyata paper.
Thanks, I appreciate your advice. I told the electrician I’d have some stipulations and he said okay.

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Old 02-09-2021, 07:37 AM
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Never give me too much time to think about something. I was figuring out how to build a stand for the space between the speakers and the existing stand. It’d need to be 9 inches wide at the front, 24 inches tall, at least 15 inches deep with a tapered top that would fit between the speakers and the stand. I started drawing it up, went to Amazon for inspiration and found the below. I cut a piece of cardboard to shape and it’ll fit pretty well.

The economics of the decision are leaning towards buying an Everest - cost avoidance from not installing the dedicated lines, recoup the cost of the pair of SR-z1 outlets and Venom Defenders I’d no longer need, and the offset from selling/trading the Denali. I can talk myself into just about anything.

So, here are 2 options:

1) amps on individual dedicated 20 amp circuits, and keep front end on the Denali

Or

2) buy an Everest, remove the Denali, cancel the additional dedicated lines, and run the entire system (amps and front end) on the Everest?

I love the Omega and Sigma powercords (for now the amps and front end are on the Denali and it sounds superb).

Any advice?

Mitch
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:23 AM
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The Everest and that stand has your name all over it.
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Lots of stuff in the world has my name all over it...lots of it in my house already. I’ve been accused of being decadently self-indulgent, but I prefer self-indulgently decadent.

Of course, for symmetry, I’d need two of the stands. Then for vibration control I’d need a footer or spikes of some sort for the feet of the stand holding the Everest. Then again for symmetry I’d have to replicate that on the other side. Then I might have a custom platform made on which the Everest would rest wood/acrylic/Terrastone etc). Then, I might have some sound absorbing panels custom made to enclose the back and two sides of the stands and turn them into bass traps, and mitigate resonance from the speakers, which I’ve really been cranking lately.

My GF thinks I need an intervention.
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I think you need two Everests - for symmetry.
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I think you need two Everests - for symmetry.
I was thinking that, but didn’t say it.
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I run two Triton V3’s - frontend and 3 large active speakers, 2 circuits. When I procured this there was no Omega QR which could have been 3 Omega QR’s and no Triton V3 for the large actives.

Now you have 2 amps and that means you could do 2 Omega QR’s or possibly wait a bit with the second one (coming but no ETA) there might be a duo (Even though I would love a trio!) PD for amps.

But anyways, I think there is no need to call off your electrician. Having dedicated circuits means you are free to make the best possible choice. The cost is usually neglible compared to the systems.

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I run two Triton V3’s - frontend and 3 large active speakers, 2 circuits. When I procured this there was no Omega QR which could have been 3 Omega QR’s and no Triton V3 for the large actives.

Now you have 2 amps and that means you could do 2 Omega QR’s or possibly wait a bit with the second one (coming but no ETA) there might be a duo (Even though I would love a trio!) PD for amps.

But anyways, I think there is no need to call off your electrician. Having dedicated circuits means you are free to make the best possible choice. The cost is usually neglible compared to the systems.
Yep, that was option 3; have the dedicated lines installed, buy the tables (already done), buy the Everest, run everything thru the Everest and then again using the dedicated circuits for the amps and decide which is best.

The other thing this does for me is allows me to get the upsampler on its own platform (where the Denali sits now), to further isolate it, and achieve, you guessed it, symmetry...two components per shelf.
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I think you need two Everests - for symmetry.
Just waiting for that BOGO sale. In the meantime looking for a sculpture that is around 8 inches wide at the base and 20 inches tall to match the Everest for the other side of the existing stand.

Candidate below...
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