AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Audio & Video > Integrated

Integrated All in one, Still in Style

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 12-29-2021, 12:15 PM
Masterlu's Avatar
Masterlu Masterlu is online now
AA Founder, Legend AV Owner



 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: South FL & Cape Cod MA
Posts: 75,781
Default

AnalogJ… Welcome to AA!
__________________
Ivan
FLORIDA
MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: ACCUPHASE A250 AMPS, C3850 PRE-AMP, DP950 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC950 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-58 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
CAPE COD

MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
Bryston Active System: BP26 PRE-AMP, MPS2 POWER SUPPLY, BAX-1 CROSSOVER, BDA-3 DAC, BDP-3 PLAYER, BCD-3 CD PLAYER, BIT15(2), MODEL T ACTIVE SPEAKERS, 21B3 CUBED AMPS, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TARGET RACK, WW SILVER CABLES
Vintage System
: LUXMAN CL-38u SE PRE-AMP, JBL L300 SPEAKERS, BRYSTON BDA-3 DAC, BCD-3 CD PLAYER, BIT15, 3B3 CUBED AMP, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, WW SILVER CABLES

Shunyata Power/Digital cables, HRS Damping Plates, Stillpoints throughout all systems
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 12-29-2021, 12:19 PM
AnalogJ AnalogJ is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 6
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Formerly YB-2 View Post
While no tubes, if you are good with used, look for a Bryston integrated. Should find one around your budget. If you find one that includes the original bill-of-sale it will include the balance of the 20yr warranty, which is one of the best in the business. Their two most recent models made 100wpc and 135wpc and can be upgraded with an internal phono-stage and/or a DAC.

For a tube/SS integrated, I was very fond of my BAT VK-300xSE which makes 150wpc. Can be fitted with a very nice internal phono-stage. Again, a used one should fit into your budget and, like most high-end gear, very well made.
I don't mean to post too many times, but a quick followup. I'm seeing the used VK-300xSE for over $4000 (US), while the VK-300x I see for a bit over $2000. What's the difference?
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 12-29-2021, 12:20 PM
AnalogJ AnalogJ is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 6
Default

Thank you, Masterlu!
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 12-29-2021, 03:40 PM
Formerly YB-2's Avatar
Formerly YB-2 Formerly YB-2 is offline
Retired

 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NJ Shore
Posts: 7,237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnalogJ View Post
I don't mean to post too many times, but a quick followup. I'm seeing the used VK-300xSE for over $4000 (US), while the VK-300x I see for a bit over $2000. What's the difference?
Won't swear to this, but think the 300x uses 4 or 6 6922 tubes in the preamp section while the 300xSE uses a pair of the 6H30. There may be other differences, but I'm not sure. In my experience, BAT usually answers the phone so you could call and ask.
__________________
Glenn...
Canton Ref 9K Clearaudio SM Pro Denon DP-80 w/AT33R, AT-VM740ML, AT-MONO3/LP, Benz Glider, Dynavector XX2 MKII, Lyra Kleos, Ortofon Cdza Blk & K-b Dual 701 Ortofon OM30 Grado GW100V2 Jelco HS-25 Nordost Valhalla Oppo 203 Orsonic AV-1b Pass Labs INT-25 QHW The Vinyl Shanling M3s Sony ST-J75, ST-A6B & TA-F6B Stax UA-7/CF Stillpoints LP1v2 WW 8/7 Pt, Au & Ag Yamamoto HS-2 & 4 Yamaha T-2
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 12-29-2021, 03:49 PM
audibleguy audibleguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 38
Default

An audiophile buddy of mine just purchased the Pathos Classic MK. III and was driving a pair of Spatial Audio Triode Master Speakers and now has a pair of Wharfedale Linton speakers and he loves it, said the overall presentation, dynamics and top to bottom sound is superb and is not looking to upgrade any time soon. He has a smallish 11' x 12' room.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 12-29-2021, 06:10 PM
AnalogJ AnalogJ is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 6
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by audibleguy View Post
An audiophile buddy of mine just purchased the Pathos Classic MK. III and was driving a pair of Spatial Audio Triode Master Speakers and now has a pair of Wharfedale Linton speakers and he loves it, said the overall presentation, dynamics and top to bottom sound is superb and is not looking to upgrade any time soon. He has a smallish 11' x 12' room.
That's VERY helpful, audibleguy. After having my Unico die (as unfixable), I'm a bit gun shy about buying a used amp. I have bought used before (from an audio dealer), but a bit guy shy now. And a new Classic One would be about the top of my budget.

In any event, the Pathos Classic Remix retails for $300 more than the Classic One, and is based on the Classic One, but with some supposed improvements. It uses more, smaller capacitors rather than the just the two large ones, yet the total capacitance is the same. And it uses LM3886 bipolar transistors rather than MOSFETs. (Pathos told me "There are 2 transistors in each side in bridged configuration, so a total of 4 amplifiers inside the unit.").

Pathos also told me "The operating point of the tubes was improved and more linear; tubes circuit gain was increased so the sound is more 'tube'-like. . They also state that they add use more voltage gain in the preamp stage than the Classic One.

The Remix additionally adds a headphone amplifier as well as options for digital inputs, the latter only usable if an inboard DAC board is purchased (adding $600 to the price). I won't likely use the latter, but it might be worth the extra $300 for the slight improvement in sound and the headphone amp. (I already have a Schitt Mani headphone amp I bought used, which I could sell).

The issue with Pathos is getting in to try. Free shipping initially, and a 60 day trial from Upscale Audio, but I'd be responsible for shipping BOTH ways if I were to return it. It'd be fantastic to have a local dealer where I could try both the Classic One and the Remix, and also not have to risk the cost of shipping. But no dealer close to me.

I'm taking home a McIntosh MA252 to try this weekend. The demo would cost me ~$3000 if I were to keep it (with a 2 year warranty remaining on it).
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:41 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©Copyright 2009-2022 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Inspire By Dennis Had
Inspire By Dennis Had
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Add Powr
Add Powr
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Accuphase
Accuphase