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Old 09-09-2013, 06:52 AM
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Default Schiit! You've done it again!! DSD only DAC US$149!

It's a standalone DAC that does DSD only. It even has an RCA bypass if you want to use a single input to yr preamp/power amp!

Neat eh!

JUST US$149!!





In case you are wondering, Schiit doesn't believe in DSD (kinda like what the guys from Bryston are saying). But if you really push them, they'll let you dip your toes in DSD land for less than what some guys pay for a power cord

So for those badgering Bryston for a DSD upgrade, maybe you can try this first.

FWIW I am on fully in the DSD camp. I love my Playback MPS5 and EMM Labs XDS1 players because of how they sound. I also love the TEAC UD501 for my headfi
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Old 09-09-2013, 08:05 AM
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Camp? hahahah!

Get some balanced connectors and I am IN! Thanks for sharing!
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:03 AM
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Camp? hahahah!

Get some balanced connectors and I am IN! Thanks for sharing!
For 150 bucks might be hard to do balanced.
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:10 AM
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Man, these guys don't miss a trick! I may buy this just to start getting into DSD.

I just wrote to Jason Stoddard to find out if DSD support can be added to Bifrost or Gungnir...
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:48 AM
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Man, these guys don't miss a trick! I may buy this just to start getting into DSD.

I just wrote to Jason Stoddard to find out if DSD support can be added to Bifrost or Gungnir...
I wasn't sure if I could link to another site so I didn't but in the article where I got these photos from, Schiit says that DSD and PCM DACs need to implement different types of analog output and they interfere, so putting them in a separate box, they say, is better and allows them to perform optimally for each type of signal.

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DSD for all. Check out the Schiit-y smiles that say “DSD for US$149″! Look more closely and you’ll see a strange mix of cynicism and mischief plastered across Messrs Stoddard and Moffat’s faces. The Schiit guys were one of several manufacturers at the 2013 T.H.E. Newport Beach Show bemused by the audiophile public’s increasing demand for DSD functionality.

What exactly is driving consumer demand DSD support? Hyperbole stirred up by certain quarters of the hi-fi press? A need to have one’s ass covered for the next big thing? Or just plain curiosity? One things for certain, it isn’t burgeoning DSD collections. With a paucity of mainstream titles currently on the digital shelves – no, Norah Jones and Counting Crows don’t count – the Schiit boys are perplexed as to why so many people are getting their panties in a tangle about DSD decoding.

Whatever the reason, Moffat and Stoddard have busied themselves this year with a typically Schiit-y response to DSD demand. When I last caught up with them at June’s Newport Beach T.H.E. Show, Schiit’s DSD wheels were already in motion. Stoddard had a prototype PCB under the table; Schiit were preparing to “put a bomb under this DSD thing”, as Stoddard sharply put it.
Three months later, the Schiit Loki is ready to go KABOOM! It’s a US$149 DSD-only DAC that accommodates your existing PCM DAC’s output via a switchable pass-through.

Some might ask why Schiit didn’t simply internalise DSD functionality in their Bifrost and/or Gungnir DACs. Moffat and Stoddard’s rationale for keeping things separate runs thusly: PCM and DSD each have their own noise profiles which require individual treatment at the DAC’s output stage. Being DSD-only, the Schiit Loki has an output stage specifically tuned to DSD’s foibles. An output stage that doesn’t play second fiddle to PCM. Your existing DAC can already handle PCM just fine.

“Loki sounds better than a lot of DSD decoders, even megabuck ones. Why? Because we’re not trying to decode both DSD and PCM with the same DAC and filter stage. Loki is optimised for one thing, and one thing only: to decode DSD.”, says Stoddard.
If you think Moffat and Stoddard are fans of Direct Stream Digital (DSD) you need to sit down for a drink and a think. Schiit are keen to remind us of several next-big-things of yesteryear; audiophile formats that failed to gain long-term traction: HDCD, DAT, DVD-Audio, MiniDisc, Quadrophonic. Ironically, even SACD itself has been consigned to the scrapheap/margins (depending on your point of view).
“There’s a very real possibility DSD will go the way of the dodo. Loki allows you to try DSD at a very low price and decide if it’s for you without throwing away your current DAC. If DSD succeeds, cool! If it doesn’t, you’re not out big bucks.”, runs the Loki FAQ.
That DSD should first prove itself with software availability is all the justification Schiit need to hold the Loki to DSD64 (x1) only.

At time of writing, the Schiit Loki is good news for Nat King Cole fans. Good news for fans of the eighty-three (count ‘em) DSD titles now available for download at SuperHiRez.com. Good news for fans of 2L Recordings, Blue Coast and Naim label releases. Good news for those with SACD rips…
…but the Schiit Loki is GREAT news for those looking to dip a toe in the DSD stream (before it becomes a flood or dries out completely).
Yes – a review unit is on its way to me this very week.
The Schiit Loki is available from…now!
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:38 PM
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Holy Schiit.
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I ordered my Loki today, and it shipped today. Should have it by weeks end.
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I ordered my Loki today, and it shipped today. Should have it by weeks end.
So it only took you 13 hours to decide to take the plunge... LOL
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:39 AM
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Actually, only one hour. I ordered right after I went to their site and read about it. Has a pass through so you can use it with your regular DAC.
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:28 AM
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well it looks like the schiit but does it sound like the schiit?
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