TAD R1 MK2 and CR MK 2

[audiot servant]

Strike me as a very fitting addition to the House of Lu... hearing them now with a full stable of TAD electronics Ivan I can understand the love completely... one of the current real wonders of hifi dreaming.

Graham

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by audiot servant

Strike me as a very fitting addition to the House of Lu... hearing them now with a full stable of TAD electronics Ivan I can understand the love completely... one of the current real wonders of hifi dreaming.

Graham

Maybe even with Esoteric or Plinius electronics.

[joeinid]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

Maybe even with Esoteric or Plinius electronics.

I'm thinking Plinius over Esoteric

[High Potential]

Greeting all,

I'm an AA virgin, and this is my first post.

I am planning to build a new system, and have a chance of getting a demoed pair of R1 mark 1 at a good discount. I will probably take this chance, but have a few questions, and as I can't start my own thread, please excuse me for hijacking this one.

What pre / power combos are know to have good synergy with TAD?

I read that Dartzeel is a great match, but I'm not able to get the monoblocks now, so would the stereo amp be adequate?

What about the devialet, or a pair?

Lastly, what cables (speaker/ic/pc) did you tried with the combo, and which did you decided on finally?

A lot of questions, so a big thank you in advance.

[jdebonth]

Hi, Welcome to AA. I have collected some amp pairing impressions and will paste below. Although I am running an dart 108 on my CR1's, I do not think it will be adequate on the R1's.

As for cabling, Siltech, crystal or audioquest is often used by Andrew Jones at shows. I personally use Siltech Royal Sig series and these are giving me great results on the CR1;s.

TAD M2500
- Class 'D' gets a hard time with the Audiophile community, as with all pieces of equipment it is in the implementation that is the key. The TAD M2500 is a bit of the dark horse, it delivers in spades.
- This amplifier is purely about getting to heart of the performance with no additives or artificial enhancements, very open sound, neither warm or cool, superb dynamic contrasts. The speed of this amplifier is quite special as well. The 2500 does have soul too, not a clinical or analytical portrayal of music just realistically honest. Presentation is grain free and projects a large sound stage behind the speakers, large scale material was handled exceptional well as was the more delicate Vivaldi and Kate Rusby compositions. It did require some time to fully present its best intensions, though in fairness all of the other quality pieces did as well. The 2500 strengths are power, poise, superb detail, great staging, dynamics and a very low noise floor; it gets to the music via another route. Again this amplifier will appeal to people seeking a greater reality and intimacy in their music, Oh did I mention the bass prowess of this amplifier, it is rather immense.

TAD M600
- These are without doubt in the Dartzeel NHB 458 league.
- Utopian in nature.

The Krell Evo series
- These produced nice results.

DarTZeel NHB 108
- Matches well just lacks real outright power.
- I find it lacks texture and depth, it has superb the speed, detail and dynamics without question, I just feel it has no real musical soul with the TAD's.

Audio Research
- Seems to be hit and miss depending on models.

Mark Levinson 532
- Those looking for a slightly more laid back sound with the CR-1's - an inviting sound that appealed to number of people.

D’Agostino’s Momentum monoblocks
- An interesting pairing; they did make some very enjoyable sounds with real dimensionality plus a good natural pace. First class equipment.
- It's big open and lush sound compliment the CR-1's with grace; it does gravitate a touch on the warm side, but does that matter? My suspicion is for 85% of listeners, not one jot. This amplifier will / is going to win a lot of individuals around with its very special combination of power, texture and listenibility. If you are in the market for a serious stereo power amplifier, the momentum stereo is a must audition.

The Power modules incorporated LA-01 and MB500 monoblocks
- Sterling performance with amazing dynamic shading and sheer freedom from the speakers (totally effortlessness).

Devialet D-Premier
- Did an admirable job of driving the TAD's well (though not at more realistic volume levels) A few rated this combination, a great all round package, though I feel ultimately will not show the CR-1's in their fullest light.
- This pairing did not produce the great things I was expecting of them (They worked very well with the Wilson Sasha's). Certainly not a match made in heaven, I also listened to them on a pair of Q1's, that also did not produce a satisfactory result. These amplifiers are very good, pair them correctly and they will sing.

Burmester 911mk3
- It failed to ignite the real passion in the music which the CR-1 conveys so well with the correct pairings. Fast and dynamic sound, with large scale and great presence: big hifi sound. All the positives, just missing the vital ingredient: an engaging and musical presentation. The 948 conditioner did generate a more open and slightly sweeter sound it again took the sounds away from real music reproduction into the realms of Audiophile Hi Fidelity.
- The pairing for me embodied all that is good about hi fidelity, great dynamics, large sound staging, sweet top end, totally grain free presentation and effortless power. Very fine pieces of equipment, bar none. The missing links for my preferences were simple: The combination just failed to engage me musically, I found it lacked the liquid fluidity of the music that captures the rise and fall in tempo, rhythm, being there sensation and overall emotion. Follow-up: As I’ve mentioned before its performance with the TAD is very good, it does compliment a great number of the TAD’s fortes. A big, open and powerful sound. Yet delicate when required, a very nice detail and tonal balance with quality articulate bass. It delivers pretty much all the traits audiophiles ask for in a quality piece of equipment easily, though as good as it is, and make no mistake it is very good it is not for me. However it does tick a lot of boxes for great many people, in this arena that does count a lot.

MBL
- Not a good match at all, something very odd there

Vitus
- All sweetness and light, not much music. Would be better suited to Focal's

VTL
- With the right speakers can sound nice, not with TAD

Technical Brain (TBP-Zero/EX mono’s)
- Produced a sound that offered superb scale yet with equally superb microdynamics [JA]

[chessman]

High Potential, welcome aboard!

[hersorin]

Anyone have experience with Bel Canto ?

[High Potential]

@jadebonth, thanks for your answer.

@chessman, thanks for the welcome.

A little tied up with work now, but I'll report back once I try a few combinations.