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Old 04-01-2012, 05:01 PM
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Joost...now you can answer your question for yourself : Rockport vs. TAD
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:42 PM
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Haha he posted my question on the site, good . He makes all valid points, and the fair comparison would be against the avior with the beryllium tweet.

Trying is the only way of really knowing...
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:52 PM
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Haha he posted my question on the site, good . He makes all valid points, and the fair comparison would be against the avior with the beryllium tweet.

Trying is the only way of really knowing...
No doubt the Rockports are excellent speakers. There is no way my room could handle them. Joost, how do you like the 911mk3 on the CR-1's? I need to know
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:56 PM
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No doubt the Rockports are excellent speakers. There is no way my room could handle them. Joost, how do you like the 911mk3 on the CR-1's? I need to know
Do you have room for a pair of Aida's under the bed?
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Do you have room for a pair of Aida's under the bed?
Sheesa ina my bed.





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Old 04-01-2012, 06:20 PM
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You're bed might collapse. lol
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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:18 PM
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Those Aidas sure are purdy. I also think the TADs are beautiful. Unlike marriage nice thing about hi Fi is we can have multiple speakers!
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:37 AM
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No doubt the Rockports are excellent speakers. There is no way my room could handle them. Joost, how do you like the 911mk3 on the CR-1's? I need to know
I have the same issue with a relatively space limited listening room. The Ankaa's are quite severly overpowering the room however I am able to flatten the 20-150Hz response by means of digital EQ filters derived from room measurement data.

Obviously I prefer not to have to do this, and the CR1's in this regard are a much better fit in my room. They still excite some sub 100Hz room modes and a touch of EQ is needed for a +/-3dB flat response, but this is minimal and I could live without it. The rockports simply do not work without the EQ, the entire room starts shaking at 80Hz with a decay time of 3 seconds :P.

Match with Burmester is absolutely sublime! The detail/speed/transparency/extension/bass control/holographic imaging aspects of the 911 are as good as I have heard with the 911. Your Dart has a tough challenger on the way , when do your 911's arrive btw? cant be far away now?
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:34 AM
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Ok I might aswell post this now as the decision has been made... the TAD's are gonna be staying (to be honest I pretty much knew it after the first few tracks on day 1). I just won't be able to live without this CST dive unit now that I have heard what it is capable of. I have never heard such a refined rendition of 250Hz and above. The match with Burmester is absolutely sublime, and they are great with any genre I throw at them. The high's are voiced slightly forward but this is done so in a completely natural way and allows an incredible wealth of detail to come through yet it remains completely non-fatiguing, the treble detail is accurate and not a result of over-shot transients which is often the inaccuracy I hear with highly detailed speakers.

The rockports have the edge in the deepest bass octave but I will find a way to fill up this 20-30Hz gap with a pair of quality subs (I am being extremely picky here, the 30Hz is enough for 80% of even my most demanding electronic music, I would say most could live happily without a sub). The challenge will be to get the sub's low bass integrated into the mid and upper bass as well as done in the Rockport's. Careful setup, phase alignment and measurements should get me pretty close, plus the TAD's already dig down deep so its not like the sub's would have a huge role to play. Love the idea of a separate sub(s) that can be fully tweaked and optimized to work best with my current (and future) listening rooms.
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