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Old 12-22-2017, 01:20 PM
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Is this is serious question?


Jim, I’m not sure why you think I wasn’t serious. It was a simple and innocent question that popped in my head 30 seconds after the following...

I live in a small subdivision of 27 homes, literally between a swamp and cornfields. I never get solicitors. Occasionally I’ll get a knock at the door by two frail women from Jehovah’s Witnesses or my neighbors selling Girl Scouts cookies or Christmas wreaths. Very rarely will solicitors show up and when they do, they at least look professional.

Yesterday, out of the corner of my eye, I noticed someone walking from the driveway to my front door. No car. As he approached the door, I could hear loud music coming from out front. He rang the doorbell, stepped back a bit and began rocking back & forth erratically. He was wearing a backpack and carrying two plastic bottles containing a blue liquid. The first thing I thought was he was selling some energy drink.

Anyways, I opened the main door, then as I cracked open the storm door and saw this hot mess selling household cleaner, I realized three things; 1) I probably shouldn’t have opened the door in the first place, 2) what the hell was I thinking opening the door, and 3) I’d feel a whole lot safer right now if I had my concealed carry.

I politely said no thanks and he walked away blasting his music.
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:40 PM
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Jim, I’m not sure why you think I wasn’t serious. It was a simple and innocent question that popped in my head 30 seconds after the following...

I live in a small subdivision of 27 homes, literally between a swamp and cornfields. I never get solicitors. Occasionally I’ll get a knock at the door by two frail women from Jehovah’s Witnesses or my neighbors selling Girl Scouts cookies or Christmas wreaths. Very rarely will solicitors show up and when they do, they at least look professional.

Yesterday, out of the corner of my eye, I noticed someone walking from the driveway to my front door. No car. As he approached the door, I could hear loud music coming from out front. He rang the doorbell, stepped back a bit and began rocking back & forth erratically. He was wearing a backpack and carrying two plastic bottles containing a blue liquid. The first thing I thought was he was selling some energy drink.

Anyways, I opened the main door, then as I cracked open the storm door and saw this hot mess selling household cleaner, I realized three things; 1) I probably shouldn’t have opened the door in the first place, 2) what the hell was I thinking opening the door, and 3) I’d feel a whole lot safer right now if I had my concealed carry.

I politely said no thanks and he walked away blasting his music.
I understand your question.
As for me, I do have a 410 shotgun with in reach. Have not had the need for it in many years. However, back in the late 90s I had a door to door solicitor come to the door and would not go away. At that time I had Max my 172 lb Rottie. In frustration I asked that guy two questions, Are you going to leave and HOW FAST CAN YOU RUN. Looking at Max he got the message as I was opening the door. (true story)
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:07 PM
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Jim, I’m not sure why you think I wasn’t serious. It was a simple and innocent question that popped in my head 30 seconds after the following...

I live in a small subdivision of 27 homes, literally between a swamp and cornfields. I never get solicitors. Occasionally I’ll get a knock at the door by two frail women from Jehovah’s Witnesses or my neighbors selling Girl Scouts cookies or Christmas wreaths. Very rarely will solicitors show up and when they do, they at least look professional.

Yesterday, out of the corner of my eye, I noticed someone walking from the driveway to my front door. No car. As he approached the door, I could hear loud music coming from out front. He rang the doorbell, stepped back a bit and began rocking back & forth erratically. He was wearing a backpack and carrying two plastic bottles containing a blue liquid. The first thing I thought was he was selling some energy drink.

Anyways, I opened the main door, then as I cracked open the storm door and saw this hot mess selling household cleaner, I realized three things; 1) I probably shouldn’t have opened the door in the first place, 2) what the hell was I thinking opening the door, and 3) I’d feel a whole lot safer right now if I had my concealed carry.

I politely said no thanks and he walked away blasting his music.
We also live in a small sub with 41 homes that is hard to find. All homes are on 1.5 + acre lots. We get few solicitors. What keeps them away is a law that says they must register with the Township and a little sticker on my doorbell that says "No Soliciting". If someone does come to the door it is usually a Boy or Girl Scout who are welcomed. When it is the occasional "magazine" seller or politician I just open to the door and point out the No Soliciting sign.
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:33 PM
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you do realize Jim criminals don't heed signs ........
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:34 PM
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Where I live there is a Marathon gas station/convenience store and a tiny post office about a mile down the road. No blinking yellow light. It's 20 miles east, and 15 miles in either direction north or south to the nearest towns. Most folks out hear live on 5 to 50 acres. There's cattle ranchers, hay fields, agricultural fields, beautiful fresh water springs that flow into the Suwannee River, and hard working country people raising families away from the big cities. It is beautiful here but it is not without crime. It was about seven years ago in the late afternoon that three people, a man, his wife, and his nephew were shot in their home execution style in the back of the head while on their knees in their dining room. This happened about a mile from my home. Two of the three killers, James Howze and Lonnie Munn, were captured three weeks later in northern Minnesota hiding in a camper near the Canadian border trying to get out of the country. The third person involved, Keith Hughes, was arrested in Suwannee County and hung himself in jail. It was a robbery to get cash from the man's safe they had heard about from Keith Hughes who knew the man and helped plan the robbery and execute three people. James Howze and Lonnie Munn were sentenced to three life terms each with no chance of parole.

These merciless brutal murders rocked our little rural community. In the three weeks before these two killers were captured everyone was on edge not knowing where they were or what might happen next. A sense of relief went through everyone once they were apprehended but our sense of peace and security was tarnished. It reminded me that violent crime can happen anywhere at any time. It often happens very quickly with little time to react. The location can be anywhere.

In the years since that crime my situational awareness has increased and my preparedness has improved. I am not paranoid, simply more aware at all times than I had been, and more prepared and trained to protect myself and those I love at all times. I wish we all lived in Mayberry with no worries, but the fact is even there safety can be fluid depending on the people present on any given day. I wish it weren't so but the facts prove otherwise. Most of us are safe in our daily lives but it is important to understand that can change in the blink of an eye.
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you do realize Jim criminals don't heed signs ........
I like my odds.
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understood .......
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Where I live there is a Marathon gas station/convenience store and a tiny post office about a mile down the road. No blinking yellow light. It's 20 miles east, and 15 miles in either direction north or south to the nearest towns. Most folks out hear live on 5 to 50 acres. There's cattle ranchers, hay fields, agricultural fields, beautiful fresh water springs that flow into the Suwannee River, and hard working country people raising families away from the big cities. It is beautiful here but it is not without crime. It was about seven years ago in the late afternoon that three people, a man, his wife, and his nephew were shot in their home execution style in the back of the head while on their knees in their dining room. This happened about a mile from my home. Two of the three killers, James Howze and Lonnie Munn, were captured three weeks later in northern Minnesota hiding in a camper near the Canadian border trying to get out of the country. The third person involved, Keith Hughes, was arrested in Suwannee County and hung himself in jail. It was a robbery to get cash from the man's safe they had heard about from Keith Hughes who knew the man and helped plan the robbery and execute three people. James Howze and Lonnie Munn were sentenced to three life terms each with no chance of parole.

These merciless brutal murders rocked our little rural community. In the three weeks before these two killers were captured everyone was on edge not knowing where they were or what might happen next. A sense of relief went through everyone once they were apprehended but our sense of peace and security was tarnished. It reminded me that violent crime can happen anywhere at any time. It often happens very quickly with little time to react. The location can be anywhere.

In the years since that crime my situational awareness has increased and my preparedness has improved. I am not paranoid, simply more aware at all times than I had been, and more prepared and trained to protect myself and those I love at all times. I wish we all lived in Mayberry with no worries, but the fact is even there safety can be fluid depending on the people present on any given day. I wish it weren't so but the facts prove otherwise. Most of us are safe in our daily lives but it is important to understand that can change in the blink of an eye.
sums up the reality in a nutshell Dan !

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I have one at hand at all times and, Yes, I do answer the door with it on my person.
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