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Old 01-15-2010, 11:23 AM
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Like I said... to my ears... K Horns in the proper room are almost impossible to beat!
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Old 01-15-2010, 10:43 PM
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I'm talking pure tractrix vs K400/K401 or K600. Examples such as the Vtrac, Fastrac and a 223Hz tractix horn. They provide much better mids that the classic exponential mid horns in the stock Heritage series.

I haven't heard the trachorn but the build is the same principle as the others. I would assume it is great too.

Am I answering your question. It is just an opinion anyway.

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Old 01-23-2010, 12:46 AM
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How many is "many"?? Are you talking Klipsch heritage, stock or Modified? I will admit that stock khorns are Piercing to say the least....Stock belles (to my ears) sound better than stock Khorns. BUT.... When you make the change over to the Trachorn, tweeter/drivers, solid silver wire, and ALK crossovers.....WOW! I've heard PMC's at audio classics, nice speaker but I think modded Khorns have them beat...you will also save yourself MUCHO $$$$$, now you can spend it on other upgrades
Which ALK's are you using in your Khorns? ES or Universal's?
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:03 AM
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deaf --- On a lark I decided to explore the sound of high efficiency audio and my first step on the path was to build a system around new Khorns knowing their obvious limitations. With the combination of my work and the volume of extra equipment I had in house to test with the Khorn, it took roughly 6 months to approach what I would call enjoyable sound.

In researching how to make a Khorn better I have come to the conclusion that the most complete way is to buy another horn speaker which has been engineered to a much more demanding standard.

This is very much a minority opinion. The Klipsch world is more comfortable with the notion that a good horn speaker is more a collection of good parts loosely tied together by a passive crossover which is rumored to be "universal".

I am more comfortable with the notion that a speaker is 20% parts and 80% clever engineering. Great speakers tend to have great parts and great engineering...

Oddly enough, in the UK they still engineer a superb Khorn with significantly better parts than its US cousin --- it retails for roughly 25K pounds and is rumored to be heavenly.

Failing the super Khorn CN191 --- there are a number of properly engineered horns which utilize the worlds best drivers, low order passive crossovers or in the extreme case very good active crossovers --- many of these speakers obtain very good results within the context of a system which includes the proper amp and front end...
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Old 01-29-2010, 04:51 PM
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deaf --- On a lark I decided to explore the sound of high efficiency audio and my first step on the path was to build a system around new Khorns knowing their obvious limitations. With the combination of my work and the volume of extra equipment I had in house to test with the Khorn, it took roughly 6 months to approach what I would call enjoyable sound.

In researching how to make a Khorn better I have come to the conclusion that the most complete way is to buy another horn speaker which has been engineered to a much more demanding standard.

This is very much a minority opinion. The Klipsch world is more comfortable with the notion that a good horn speaker is more a collection of good parts loosely tied together by a passive crossover which is rumored to be "universal".

I am more comfortable with the notion that a speaker is 20% parts and 80% clever engineering. Great speakers tend to have great parts and great engineering...

Oddly enough, in the UK they still engineer a superb Khorn with significantly better parts than its US cousin --- it retails for roughly 25K pounds and is rumored to be heavenly.

Failing the super Khorn CN191 --- there are a number of properly engineered horns which utilize the worlds best drivers, low order passive crossovers or in the extreme case very good active crossovers --- many of these speakers obtain very good results within the context of a system which includes the proper amp and front end...
Can you please tell me which loudspeaker has been in continuous production for the longest period of time...?
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Old 02-17-2010, 08:57 PM
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Which ALK's are you using in your Khorns? ES or Universal's?
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Sorry for "aged" response (dont visit here often....) I'm using the universals, I have a pair of new unused ES xovers.....Never tried em yet! I am gonna use the men220 as crossovers (if i can get a unit that works properly......Long story...)
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:05 PM
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ALK Trachorns arrived yesterday and were packed well as expected. It took a whole 30 minutes to install these thanks to the great instructions and pictures. I put on the first CD and my jaw dropped, I really was not expecting a dramatic difference in horns like I experienced with the ALK universals. Wow, it was like I removed a rag or something from the old horns. I can actually hear better separation of instruments, improved imaging and a lifelike sound, like I was sitting front row/center. What was Klipsch thinking when they casted the K-400? I believe the KHorns will be here another 20 years if I last that long. This has truly transformed these speakers into an Edgarhorn like sound. This is the number one upgrade I've experienced in my system in 20 years.

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Old 02-26-2010, 02:36 PM
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Hi guys,

I just learned of this forum and I see a few of the good people from the Klipsch forums here. I figured I might as well join up and say hi!

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Old 02-26-2010, 04:06 PM
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Hi guys,

I just learned of this forum and I see a few of the good people from the Klipsch forums here. I figured I might as well join up and say hi!

Al K.
Welcome Al

Yes, there seems to be a few of those happy people hanging around here.
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Old 02-26-2010, 06:36 PM
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ALK.....great to have you here...would love to have some of your great knowledge shared on this forum....

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