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Thank you to all those that posted messages of support. Its nice to know I'm not entirely insane. Or at least I'm not alone in the asylum! Shindo is a system approach, many have luck with mix and match which is cool. Shindo explained to me from day one what they call "The music mind." Odd sounding but years later it makes perfect sense to me. Once you experience the effect of a well tuned Shindo chain, you to may come to understand. Or is that too cultish sounding My recent trip to Germany placed me in front of two systems with a different sound, both had the music mind in full effect. With the guidance of Mr. Aschenbrenner and some careful set up, these two systems are among the best I've heard. They both used A23 cables from top to bottom, had various Shindo components and Line Magnetic 22A based speakers. Top performance is possible with both Shindo or A23 cables is my point... To answer the original poster and get back on track.
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While I appreciate Shindo's "system" approach to sound, my experience has taught me that you cannot overestimate the importance of the room in the final sonic equation. I've heard $100K+ systems sound like crap because of horrible room acoustics. Likewise, I have heard modest systems sound very good with appropriate room treatments. In many cases I believe better sound could be acquired by spending a few hundred dollars on room treatments than another $10K on upgrading equipment. I am amazed at the number of audiophiles who talk all the time about the equipment but never spend a moment thinking about the acoustical environment. Okay - I'll get off my soap box now.
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Ha. Figures. The McIntosh colored glasses mascot doesn't have ears.
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Just keep in mind, one man's facts are another man's fiction. To each there own.
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Ok Neil. I have no problem with the fact that A23 and Shindo cables are very good. I'm just talking about the new information regarding the fact that using non Switchcraft connectors with Shindo can alter / damage the sound / female plugs of the components. I can bet you that many many Shindo owners, who bought their Shindo gear at authorized Shindo dealers, and did not want to buy Shindo or A23 cables for all the chain ( what about people who have an old tuner paid 300 dollars used. Will they pay 500 for a cabble for it ???. Many people bought only a Shindo cable between the preamp and the amp like Alberto ) never heard this information. HERE COMES MISINFORMATION ! So disclosing it NOW, in a thread where some people including me, suggest that there could be better or at least not poorer cables from other brands used with Shindo gear, looks a bit " strange ". I personnaly trust the information although I know that even some Shindo owners don't ( but they are too "affraid" to enter the debate : guess why ? ? ) believe in this. I had all the technical details explaining it from both Jonathan and Keith and I'm almost ok with that. I AM JUST SAYING THAT THIS INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE PUBLISHED ON THE WEB SITES OF DEALERS AND IMPORTERS AND SHOULD FIGURE ON THE USER NOTICE WITH THE APPLIANCES ! Funny how I seem to speak a different language than english sometimes..... Sent from my iPad using A.Aficionado
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If you bought from an authorized dealer and did not receive this information, I would take it up with a brand representative. As to the people who are afraid to enter the "debate," what is up to debate? I can guess why they are afraid? No I cannot. That is very odd. Do they think this is the da Vinci Code and will be struck down by Shindo agents? Are they unusually meek? Is their conspiracy construct so central to their lives that they fear it will collapse after being provided with actual information? Do they work for Nordost? Did they invest in a Siltech tattoo in their misspent youth? Do they fear being called out for making grey market purchases? Ironically your constant reference to a Shindo Sect may be most responsible for creating a perception that it exists. even me pointing that out goes one step further to legitimizing the claim. AND I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW TO JOIN OR WHAT THEY DO!!! Jerome, Where did you get your gear and who failed to provide you with the info? Keith? I doubt that! Bring the issue up with that person. Your dealer should have discussed it with you. Why take it against Shindo generally? Last edited by kev313; 06-01-2013 at 08:33 AM. |
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By the way, unless my memory is faulty, this top secret information regarding the delicate nature of the Switchcraft components has been discussed by First Order Master Shindo Mason Art Dudley in the sect newsletter, Stereophile.
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